RE: Mac's Starter

["Mac @ TRIAD" <mac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

## >> First of all, we are glad that your bride has returned home
## >> in time for the
## >> kids to be old enough to really appreciate Disneyland. Ashke
## >> is probably big
## >> enough to go on the big kid rides by now.

thank you, Allan.  that's pretty much what we're thinking, too.  Ashke is
just about the right age for a first trip to Mickey Mouse World, so he
should have a really good time, we're not so sure about Wntre.  gonna give
it a whirl, anyway.  should be a happy feely-goodie time for all of us, i
think.

## >> I have been replacing starters quite a bit over the last two
## >> years. I have
## >> found that heat tends to wear them out faster. That factory
## >> heat shield is a
## >> good idea. They put it there for a reason. When you take the
## >> starter off,
## >> painting that heat shield with something reflective is a good
## >> idea, too. I'm
## >> hopeful that one of the brighter members of the board can
## >> suggest something.
## >> I was thinking of powdercoating mine, but I'm not sure if the
## >> powdercoating
## >> would hold up to the heat of the exhaust pipe. On the other
## >> hand, I'm sure
## >> that the starter "won't."

heat shield?  <blank look>  what heat shield?  *none* of my trucks has a
heat shield on the starter, and none of them had one when i got 'em.  a heat
shield over the starter sounds like one heck of a good idea to me, so where
do i get these puppies?  i'll be needing three.  you're right, the starter
under the TravelAll gets *REALLY* hot in a very short time.  the starters
under the 800 and the 800A don't seem to get anywhere near as hot as the
TravelAll, but you could broil steaks on the TravelAll starter.

i think there's a powdercoat process that *should* hold up to the heat.  a
buddy of mine has a 1971 Chevy Suburban (283, custom Edelbrock intake,
Rochester Quadrajet carb) with a set of headers with some kind of coating on
them, and whatever it is they coated the things with, it seems to be holding
up.  ten or twelve years later, they're still coated with whatever that
stuff is.  i'll have to ask him what about it.

## >> I have also found that the remote relay setup makes a difference. The
## >> solenoids to not fail as often when there is a full 12 volts
## >> going to them.
## >> (technical reasons withheld for another thread) When the
## >> trigger wiring or
## >> the battery cable is sub standard, failures are more common.
## >> I pay about 8
## >> bucks at checker for the solenoids, and about 4 bucks for the
## >> extra cable.
## >> It takes about an hour to install, and makes life far easier
## >> in many ways. I
## >> have been mounting them to the inner fender with self tapping
## >> screws, and
## >> the curvature of the fender applies good tension. Obviously,
## >> you need a
## >> screw gun of some sort for that, but I'm sure you can come up
## >> with a way
## >> that will work. A small drill bit for a pilot hole makes the
## >> job fun. A
## >> separate jumper to a good ground insures reliability.

i haven't done this on the 800 yet, but both my TravelAlls, the B122, and
the 800A already have remote starter buttons with direct-wired battery
cables, as heavy as i can lay hands on.  i didn't go the route of the Ford
type solenoid, but that's just sheer preference on my part for the way i
prefer to wire them.  the TravelAll already has four of those Ford solenoids
(and four smaller relays) under the hood for various functions, as you may
recall seeing when i was at your place.  $7.99 apiece for the "good" Niehoff
relays, and between $4 and $10 depending on dimensions for the extra cable.
so far, getting enough juice to the starters doesn't seem to be my problem
(might have been the problem with the Chevy)...  i think it's the heat
that's eating the starters.

now that i know about those heat shields, if i can get me a couple, that
might just solve my problem.  i wonder if i can get some of that space-age
insulation mounted on the exhaust-pipe side of the shield for additional
protection?

additionally, T.R.E.jr. mentioned a spacer for the starter on automatics in
IH trucks...  mine doesn't have that spacer either.  should there be one?
if it should have one, where do i get it?  my 1010 didn't have a spacer on
it when i got it, so i had no idea about such a thing.  this is only my
second IH auto-equipped truck, i've got a lot to learn yet.

## >> Have fun at Disneyland.

thank you again, Allan.

--Mac

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