On Sep 29, 2004, at 6:52 AM, ken.dunnington wrote:
A bit of Devil's Advocate...
Me too, in this case.
Didn't the Suburban appear in the 30's? I remember the Travelall ads touting the tow rating as compared to the burbs of that time. Maybe the Travelall has mixed parentage.I suppose I agree too. I don't know too much about the subject but I'd guess that the likely ancestor of the Travelall is the Dodge Carryall.
Although, I think the Spanish in 1898 were using 7X57 cartridges in their Mausers and these were demonstrably better than our Krags and older rifles. So, like the Carryall/Suburban roots of the Travelall, the Springfield and its cartridge might have had mixed parentage?Likewise the 30-06 is a derivative of the Mauser 7.92x57.
Ooh, my goodness, just the thought of it makes my once battered M1 thumb throb.So they are both not the first of their type but have become more significant than their predecessor, atleast in the US? Ken 03FFL BTW, I just had some fun on Sunday shooting my Hakim, which is chambered in...7.92x57JS. What a fine shooting rifle, just don't get your thumb in the wrong place during assembly/disassembly. If you think M1 thumb hurts, a Hakim will seem to take it off.