[ihc] Re: making a 1/2T a 3/4T

["Ryan Moore" <baradium@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: "Dennis Bernth" <scoutdude@domain.elided>
> Reply-To: "Dennis Bernth" <scoutdude@domain.elided>
> To: "Ryan Moore" <baradium@domain.elided>,<ihc@domain.elided>
> Subject: Re: making a 1/2T a 3/4T
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:29:37 -0600
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>   IF there are 3/4 ton Chevy pickups in the military, they're probably
> locally sourced or gotten from GSA and are not mil-spec. There was a half
> ton Chevy 4x4 on Ebay a while back that was supposedly bought from a DRMO
> auction; it was painted up like a CUCV, but was half ton civilian all the
> way. I would guess that local bases have some leeway when they need a
> utility vehicle to requistion one from GSA, who probably had a lot full of
> Chevy 4x4's that they had bought for the USFWS, Forest Service, National
> Parks, etc.
except that's not how the military does things... all thier vehicles are 
specifically built for the military and are a mil-spec, just of a different 
type.


>   I'm aware the Dodges weren't tabbed as CUCV's,  I used that terminology
> because they are what the GM CUCV's replaced. I don't know what the 
> military
> called em to be honest.
>   The guy with the axles either doesn't know what he has or what they came
> from, or they're not what he says they are. AFAIK, any Dana 44 front used 
> by
> GM would have lockouts, or lockouts could be installed. I'm not sure what 
> GM
> used for front axles post-1988, but I don't think they're HD 44's- IIRC,
> they're a coil sprung, independent suspension type, nothing like a 'normal'
> 44 you could use under a Travelall.
I promise they are Dana 44s, dana 44s look nothing like a 10 bolt GM. For 
one thing, a 10 bolt GM has a round cover.  BTW, these aren't coil sprung, 
and remember, we are *not* talking about 1/2 ton pickups.


> The 'ONLY' front 44's that I know of
> that don't have normal hubs that can take locking hubs are the morphodite
> Dodges. Even when Dodge went to front axle disconnects in the mid-80's, it
> kept the same outer hub style, just used a chrome 'cover' on the outside to
> replace the locking hub assembly since the lock in, lock out function was
> done by the axle disconnect.
sure you aren't thinking of the dodge full time units?  that's how they 
worked.


> I also don't think GM used front 44's after
> about 1977- they went to their own 10 bolt, which uses most of the same
> suspension parts (ball joints, locking hubs, etc) as the earlier 44's.
>   Dennis

When GM went to the 10 bolt, not all trucks got the 10 bolt, some still got 
the dana 44, and I want to say that the 3/4 tons got them more than others.  
Also, remember, the military got whatever it wanted, and if they wanted dana 
44s, they'd get them.


Thanks,
Ryan

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