Re: Manual to Power Steering

[tsm1@domain.elided (Tom Mandera)]

>Tom, You said the output shaft on the steering column needed to be
>changed. is thah the part from the firewall to the first joint? I was
>just looking at both of them and the columns have two joints. The power
>steering has a U-type joint and a rag joint, and the manual has a U-type
>and a slip pin closed knuckle type joint. Are you telling me the shaft
>before the first joint is different splined?

I was hoping some one else would chime in here.. I haven't done this swap
yet, and I'm about to enter litigation to get my '72 w/ the manual steering
back from a body man that performed unauthorized work (after sending me a
work order 2x the estimate).

Anyhow..

I did take a peek between the '72 w/ manual and my '77 w/ power steering
once, a while back.

I think.. it was the input shaft to the power steering unit that has the
different spline count.. between the box and the rag joint.  I remember that
when I looked at the two, it was noticeable that the spline counts were off.

Most people suggest replacing the lower column (I think it starts about the
firewall) with a power steering column, complete with rag joint (replace
when you do it.. $10 or so, and it can't be in that great of shape anyhow)
and input shaft.

Bill Thebert offered up the info a long time back that ... digging through
my archives I come up with:

Bill T:
"
I am the source of this "rumor", Tom. <g>  It came from the Binder Bulletin
article I did on PS conversion for an 80/800 Scout.  Also applies to folks
who prefer the reliability of the metal "cup-style" u-joint (as you have)
over the extra "cushion" provided by the fabric rag joint (used on PS).  The
metal "cup" on your manual gear is splined for a smaller input shaft (to the
steering gear).  Travelall manual gears used the same style joint, but had a
larger input shaft that is the same diameter and spline count as the PS gear
on Scout II.  Using that part saves cutting & fabricating one of your own,
as I did. 
"

So.. now that I've dredged up that important morsel..

Anyone have a manual steer Travelall that they're parting out? :-)

-Tom Mandera, Helena MT
http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout
'72 and '77 Scout II