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reply- <E36> Euro HFM dyno results ('95 M3), almost no power gains !!!
- Subject: reply- <E36> Euro HFM dyno results ('95 M3), almost no power gains !!!
- From: LoweSeaton@xxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:57:31 EDT
Igor opened up a can of worms:
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I tested my car (93' 325i with 95' M3 engine ) after installing the
Euro HFM / Air Box / JC chip (T506-301) purchased from Turner .
To my surprise, there was almost no gain in Max HP and Torque:
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I installed the Euro HFM on my '95 M3 in July and also did "before" and
"after" dyno tests. My results were similar to Igor's. My peak numbers were
a little higher but the Euro HFM actually lost 2 hp compared to stock. I did
not post my results because my dyno test was not fair to Turner Motorsport and
Jim Conforti. The reason Igor and I didn't see any performance gains is the
AIRBOX. The airbox (Euro airbox too) is restricting airflow.
Answer: GET RID OF THE AIRBOX
The best air intake system is an open K&N cone filter. Digest Bimwad Bob S.
suggested using K&N part number RU-1785. It has a 3.5-inch outlet to match
the Euro HFM diameter. I haven't had time to fit my M3 with the K&N filter
yet but I am told it is fairly easy. Be sure to fabricate some kind of heat
shield/fan shield for the filter also. You can also buy several "ready-made"
K&N filter kits. And I know of at least one place that you can buy a pre-made
heat shield too.
I've also investigated using Dinan's Cold Air Intake System but I've found out
that it has problems and I don't recommend it. The best method is an open K&N
filter with a heat shield.
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The dyno graph for the Euro Hfm looks smoother than stock,
the power 'dip' at 5300rpm is almost gone ...
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Same for me. I think Jim Conforti's programming is far superior. Even with
the airbox strangling the intake, the power curve is better. I had a Dinan
chip before and I had an immediate 10 ft-lb (5%) drop in torque from 3,800 to
4,000 rpm. The TMS chip is very smooth throughout the power band. I've got a
more useful power curve even though the peak hp is slightly less.
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I called Will Turner and faxed him the dyno results, he
told me that he passed the information to Jim Conforti
but received no reply, this was a month ago.
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This is hard to believe. I e-mailed Jim Conforti my results at 1:00 am CDT
and he replied 10 minutes later! We traded e-mail until after 2:00 am when I
went to bed. Jim did not have an immediate answer but I must have piqued his
interest because about a week later he e-mailed me and said, "The light
dawned. Throw that airbox outta there!" In fact, it is likely that Jim C has
already e-mailed you by now and beat my reply.
Remove the airbox and redo your dyno test. I am sure you will see a big
improvement. I plan to retest my Euro HFM if it ever cools off here in Dallas
and post my results.
Lowell Seaton
'95 M3 - Euro HFM, TMS chip, K&N open filter soon
Dallas, TX (only 93 today!)
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