Re: [alfa] 105/115 starter interchange

[sherwood white <vze2skmv@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

i have put at least 40 75=82 starters on 72-74 105's now your telling me it
won't work don't sound right

Jason Hagen wrote:

> Alfa changed ring gears in '75 on these cars.  The only other starter you
> want to put on your '72 (assuming it has the oroginal ring gear) is one from
> a series 4 spider (1991- 1994).  I just did this for my '73 Spider and it
> works perfect.  I had tried the one from the '75 - '90 but it grinded.  If
> you have any questions on this, call Paul at DiFatta Brothers and he can
> explain it to you.  The series 4 starter (Bosch gear reduction) is
> expensive, but worth it.
>
> Again, do NOT put the worng starter in this car.  You will chew up your gear
> gear, regardless of whether the starter has the same number of teeth
> (because the pitch is different).
>
> -Jason Hagen
> '73 Spider
> '95 164Q
>
> >From: "Brian Shorey" <bshorey@domain.elided>
> >Reply-To: "Brian Shorey" <bshorey@domain.elided>
> >To: "'Dana Loomis'" <dloomis@domain.elided>, <alfa-digest@domain.elided>
> >Subject: RE: [alfa] 105/115 starter interchange
> >Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:44:13 -0400
> >
> > > The starter on my '72 GTV motor has died and I'm searching
> > > for another one to use while the original one is being
> > > rebuilt.  Problem is, early 2 liter starters are fairly rare.
> > >  The other starters in my parts cache are a 3-bolt 1600
> > > starter (won't work; the pinion has the wrong number of
> > > teeth) and one from a late '70s-early '80s spider.  The
> > > spider starter is bigger and heavier than the original one,
> > > but the pinion has the same number of teeth (9).  I suppose
> > > it's the 1.1 HP type, but I'm not certain.
> > >
> > > The question is whether this later starter will work on an
> > > early 2 liter motor.  I have heard that the ring gears may
> > > have different numbers of teeth, but I don't know this for
> > > certain.  However, I have used the reduction gear starter
> > > from a late model spider on an early 2 liter engine without
> > > any problem.  I have also heard that the heavy 1.1 HP starter
> > > can break the bellhousing if it's installed without a special
> > > bracket, which I don't have.
> >
> >If it's got the same number of teeth (9 vs 8), then it will work fine.
> >Weight could be an issue, I wouldn't leave it there long term without
> >the support bracket.
> >
> >The reduction gear starters are the best!
> >
> >bs
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