Re: GTV6 Fuel Pump Wiring help needed

["Robert Savi at TechStyle Computers, Inc" <savi@domain.elided>]

OK,  I have narrowed it down even further.  I traced the positive wire from
the pump to the relay at the 88y connector in the relay block.  I then ran a
wire straight from the + on the battery to the + pump wire and got some pump
noise!

According to the shop manual, I should jump 88y and 88d together, meaning, I
assume than there has to be connection between the 2.  88d is a heavy guage
wire that goes along the firewall and it looks to emerge behind the fuse block
under the steering wheel.  It looks like it would be a ground wire based on
the guage but I am guessing it goes to the fuse block somewhere.  Does this
make sense?

Regards,

Robert C. Savi
Principal/Architect
TechStyle Computers, Inc.

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Allen Mitchell
  To: savi@domain.elided
  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: GTV6 Fuel Pump Wiring help needed


  Yes, I seem to remember that the wiring did eventually lead to the relay box
in the engine compartment, but I can't recall.  What your best bet might be is
to simply run a new "+" wire to the fuel pump from the relay box.  I can't
remember which wire it was, but I seem to think that it was the same color all
the way through.  If none of the wires at the relay box match up, follow the
wire bundle out of the relay box back to the bulkhead connector and check
again there, for both the ?pink? wire and for loose/corroded connections.





  >From: "Robert Savi at TechStyle Computers, Inc"
  >To: "Allen Mitchell"
  >Subject: Re: GTV6 Fuel Pump Wiring help needed
  >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:48:32 -0600
  >
  >Al,
  >
  >I tested the relay and it does crank. I also hot wired the pump to the
battery and the pump does work (swishing sound and all). I am worried that I
am left with a broken wire. :-(
  >
  >If so, I've got to figure out where the wiring goes to in the engine bay
which cannot be fun. Any other ideas?
  >
  >Regards,
  >
  >Robert C. Savi
  >Principal/Architect
  >TechStyle Computers, Inc.
  >
  >savi@domain.elided
  >www.techstylecomputers.com wood computers and electronics
  >www.gostyle.com wood palm pilots and cellular phones
  >www.woodlogo.com wood promotional and gift items
  >tel 303.629.0966 x11
  >fax 303.629.0977
  >fax 303.629.0977
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Allen Mitchell
  > To: savi@domain.elided
  > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:01 AM
  > Subject: Re: GTV6 Fuel Pump Wiring help needed
  >
  >
  > Hi-
  >
  > I had a similar problem with a Milano once, and there is no easy solution.
One of the wires to the fuel pump SHOULD be connected to ground, and I would
verify this after making sure all the fuses are ok. I do not recall which one
is which color wise, but you can take a tester and put the positive wire to
the plus terminal on the battery and then check each wire. The one that makes
the tester work is the ground. You will NOT harm the "delicate electronics"
doing this, no matter what anybody tells you. There is nothing delicate about
the electonics on this car. A tester can be a voltmeter, or a 12V light bulb
with two wires connected to it.
  >
  > Next, I would check the relay box by having someone crank the car while
you hold the box in your hand or listen to it. You should hear something click
inside it. Also, you can do the old "push on the vane of the airflow meter"
trick. I have never done this, but I am told that this should make the relay
box click. If there is no clicking, it might be a bad relay box. If so, let me
know, as I have an extra good one that I can loan/give you. Don't rush out and
buy a new one, since they are kind of pricey.
  >
  > -Al
  >
  >
  >
  > >From: "Robert Savi at TechStyle Computers, Inc"
  > >Reply-To: "Robert Savi at TechStyle Computers, Inc"
  > >To:
  > >Subject: GTV6 Fuel Pump Wiring help needed
  > >Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:20:11 -0600
  > >
  > >I just replaced what I thought to be a bad fuel pump. Yet the new one is
not
  > >kicking on. Here's what I am finding:
  > >
  > >- With the ignition switch on, I do not have power on either wire going
to the
  > >fuel pump. I am assuming one is power but which one?
  > >- I followed the wires to the underside of the back seat and tested for
  > >power... nothing in either wire.
  > >- I pulled the connector on the fuel pump relay and tested the 2 wires
  > >referred to by the shop manual. 88y has power, 88d does not. Is that
right?
  > >Neither wire matches the color of the wires going to the fuel pump.
  > >
  > >Is it the relay? A break in the wires somewhere? Any help would be much
  > >appreciated! I am a novice at this stuff so please dumb it down to my
level.
  > >Thanks!
  > >
  > >Regards,
  > >
  > >Robert C. Savi
  > >Principal/Architect
  > >TechStyle Computers, Inc.
  > >
  > >savi@domain.elided
  > >www.techstylecomputers.com wood computers and electronics
  > >www.gostyle.com wood palm pilots and cellular phones
  > >www.woodlogo.com wood promotional and gift items
  > >tel 303.629.0966 x11
  > >fax 303.629.0977
  > >fax 303.629.0977
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