Re: Duetto/Kamm Spider differences, parts wanted

["George Schweikle" <schweikg@domain.elided>]

Val,

The '71 and later Spider body has an indentation below the nose edge for the
top of the (different profile) grille to fit under. If you put a newer nose
on a Duetto, the old grille won't fit the new sheet metal profile, since it
doesn't have the bump on top of the nose. In other words, the grille will
have to match the bodywork. The biggest issue will be bumpers and mounts.
The '71 - '74 cars have relatively light bumpers and mounts, and these
mounts might interchange with Duetto bumpers. Duetto (or '71-'74 bumpers)
are definitely not interchangeable with a '76 and later. These cars have
bumper shock absorbers and heavy mounts on different centerlines than the
bolt patterns on earlier cars. Interestingly, the later cars still have the
indentation under the nose even when they have the false "half grilles" and
a full width black bumper. If you cut and retract a '76 bumper, a real '72
grille can be mounted in the resulting opening. I did this on my '76  and it
makes the thing look like a real Spider (See the Dec. Alfa Owner, page 8).
Be warned, though, these bumpers weigh 75-80 lbs. each and there is a lot of
steel to cut through after you get through the thin outer layer of rubber.

George Schweikle
76 Spider
87 Milano


----- Original Message -----
From: valdanilov <valdanilov@domain.elided>
To: <alfa@domain.elided>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Duetto/Kamm Spider differences, parts wanted


> Hi all,
>
> I have a chance to purchase a complete Duetto for a very reasonable price.
> The problem is the car was in a bad front end collision, and nose ,
fenders
> and engine lid are scrap. My question is, are those parts interchangable
> with the later Spiders. The only difference I am aware of  is the small
> bulge above grille on the Duetto (easily fabricated). Is there anything
else
> that would prevent me from using a later Spider as a donor car for sheet
> metal? Any advise on the body work after collision from somebody
> experienced? I can email pictures of the car to those able to help with an
> advise.
> Val
> Seattle
> an Alfa, 3 Lancias, and a Fiat

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