Re: Mysterious numbers (was: Re: Mysterious Giulia)

["G.J." <quentemy01@domain.elided>]

(Of course) John is correct.
-a- The difference between 2000 GT Veloce (the "Bertone" coupi) and the
GTV2000 (the "Alfetta" coupi) is an important one.
-b- My source is usually Fusi and I am aware of the different figures from
various sources; in my experiecne, and in general, Fusi is wrong on the fewest
occasions compared to others. Nevertheless I am the first one to confirm that
many/some specialized "collectors" have figures that are more correct. But in
general..........
--
Gert-Jan from Holland
(156) SW 1.8
http://go.to/mysportwagon
http://alfisti.net
http://alfa-forum.com

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: John Hertzman
  To: alfa-digest@domain.elided
  Cc: G.J.
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 5:37 AM
  Subject: Mysterious numbers (was: Re: Mysterious Giulia)


  Gert-Jan from Holland gave a detailed response to the query of Olivier Brose
from Belgium about AR2424170, including a production date of 1971, a type
designation of 2000 GT Veloce -type 105.21 (rather than GTV2000, which Olivier
Brose had called it) and that in that year the serial number range produced
was 105.21.2420001-105.21.2426702 with corresponding engine serial numbers
00512.00001-00512.10226. He goes on to say This model was produced from
1970-1977 in total 37459 pcs.

   The distinction between a GT Veloce and a GTV, and especially between a
2000 GTV and a GTV 2000, has been mentioned in the past (Les? Somebody from
down that way, if  memory serves) as the Alfetta coupe was called a GTV 2000
(but not called a Veloce), which could occasionally lead to confusion. The
serial numbers which Gert-Jan gave are exactly those given for the 1971 105.21
by Fusi.

   Fusis production figures stop with the 1972 cars. DAmico & Tabucchi, who
are a later and larger but not necessarily better source, give two different
production-date ranges (1971-1976 on p.670, 1971-1975 on p.673 and on p.1046)
rather than Gert-Jans 1970-1977, and a very different production total
(32,288 rather than 37,459) as well as a different serial-number range for the
105.21 for 1971 (ending at 2427650 rather than 2426702). Their 32,288 total
includes the 105.22 (r/h drive) and 115.01 (USA) types as well as the basic
105.21.

   I mention this not to differ with Gert-Jan; I have no more reason to
believe one set of numbers than another. But it may be useful to know that
numbers often differ, sometimes quite substantially, and that sometimes citing
the sources can help keep data and other facts (or facts) in perspective.

   Cordially,

   John H.

  Raleigh, N.C.

--
to be removed from alfa, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi
or email "unsubscribe alfa" to majordomo@domain.elided