Re: RE: RE: star cars

[Stan Barnett <S.A.Barnett@domain.elided>]

   Richard,
         Thanks for that. Faversham Classics reconditioned
my heads about five years ago and, as you say, they do
spend your money (without asking!!). My final bill was
around £1,300 and I could have had the whole engine
rebuilt by Harts for less.
         Interestingly, I took the car back a few days after they
had finished, to complain of a lack of power. They kept the
car for a day, gave it back saying it was perfect and charged
me an extra £80. A week later I drove it through France and
it started to misfire as the outside temperature rose. It broke
down in darkest Provence and was trailered to the AA's agent,
a Fiat garage, who played around with it for an hour and told
me there was no compression and I probably needed to replace
the valves!! They got it going but it finally expired in Nice and
had to be trailered back to England. I finished the holiday in the
Opel version of a Vauxhall Cavalier -- not quite the same.
        Worryingly, the Stag had not got back by the time I had, but
it arrived a few days later. I had an independent AA garage look
at the engine and they found all the tappets had been over-shimmed.
I went back to Faverham Classics, who hotly denied any liability,
so I ended up taking them to the Small Claims Court where I won
and was awarded about £300 damages.
        However, next to Faversham Classics is Faversham Restorations
who are, apparantly, unconnected and I am getting a price from them
at the moment, but they are muttering labour costs of between £3,000
and £6,000 plus parts, so I thought it might be prudent to get a second
quote.
       Anyway, thanks for the thought,
                                               Stan Barnett.

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:22:01 +0100 Richard Hudson 
<richard.hudson@domain.elided> wrote:
>Stan
>Try talking to Faversham Classics, Trevor is your man. I will dig out
>his phone number tonight or you can check out the small ads in the 
back
>of SOC mag if you have one. 
>
>Faversham Classics restore and maintain only Stags, therefore they
>regard themselves as specialists. They certainly can do absolutely
>everything for you. Beware however they do have a very good habit of
>spending your money for you.. They helped me with my Engine rebuild 
and
>proved extremely helpful and knowledgeable.
>
>I'll see if I can get any more companies for you tonight.
>
>Richard Hudson
>73 Auto White Stag
>maybe that E-Type one day (I'll never sell the Stag though)
>
>P.S. Pinewood studios in north London, I think these guys were
>responsible for Sweeney and other such shows. It was reputed that 
most
>of the way through the early 70's they were trashing MkII and S type
>Jags at the rate of 1 per week. Amazing that there are any left
>
>	-----Original Message-----
>	From:	Stan Barnett [SMTP:S.A.Barnett@domain.elided]
>	Sent:	17 June 1998 20:06
>	To:	Richard Hudson
>	Cc:	'Ronald Brown'; 'Stag Digest'
>	Subject:	Re: RE: star cars
>
>
>	  Twenty odd years on it seems to be senseless vandalism
>	to destroy such cars, but, at the time they weren't nostalgic
>	collectors' pieces but everyday (albeit quality) vehicles. I
>	seem to remember adverse comment at the time about the 
>	Lambo, which was the only expensive write-off (E Types
>	were only about £2,000 new) and the Studio issued a 
statement
>	to the effect that the car was purchased as a write-off from
>	an Italian breaker's yard and cosmetically restored for its
>	brief part in the film.
>	  As for the systematic destruction of current collector's cars,
>
>	I remember watching The Sweeney every week, hoping there
>	would be a Mk. 2 Jag. driven by one of the villains,  because 
if
>	there was you could bet your life that, near the end of the
>episode,
>	there would be a great car chase and the Jag. would be
>spectacularly
>	written off. Now I'd love to own a good 3.8 manual, but can't
>afford one!
>	  Can anyone recommend a good bodyshop in East Kent, as I
>	need to comprehensively restore my Stag's coachwork this 
year!!!
>	
>Stan Barnett.
>
>
>
>	On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:33:03 +0100 Richard Hudson 
>	<richard.hudson@domain.elided> wrote:
>	>Hi Ronald
>	>
>	>Thanks for the additional Info. All goes into the database..
>	>
>	>The cars in the Italian Job were sadly not mock ups.. The
>Ferrari that
>	>you mention was most probably the Lamborghini Miura. The 
Mafia 
>	halted it
>	>with a JCB as it raced through a tunnel, The Lambo not the 
JCB.
>The 
>	JCB
>	>then shovels the Miura over the wall at the side of the road
>and the
>	>camera sticks on it as it bounces all the way to the bottom of
>the
>	>ravine. Engine, interior, wheels the lot. What a crime.. The
>crew should
>	>have been locked up for life...
>	>
>	>Check out this URL, Autocar found the road
>	>http://www.sonnet.co.uk/seventony/rtt_ch.htm
>	><http://www.sonnet.co.uk/seventony/rtt_ch.htm> 
>	>
>	>The other three cars DB5 convertible and two E-Types both
>series 1 
>	(one
>	>FHC and one Roadster) were also real cars. The DB5 was
>definitely a
>	>write off as it met a similar fate as the Lambo but one of the
>badly
>	>mangled E-Types survives to this day it was the Roadster 
Reg
>848 
>	CRY
>	>(couldn't be more suitable). Believe it or not it was the very
>first
>	>E-Type to win a production car race back in 1961. (I think it's
>	>registration was 2 BBC then.) I believe the car is now 
restored
>and
>	>owned by Paul Skilleter, a well respected Jaguar Historian.
>	>
>	>Bearing the above in mind, I don't think the producer was too
>bothered
>	>about sending three Cooper S mini's to their unfortunate
>death..
>	>
>	>I love the film, but have to leave the room at the scene's of
>senseless
>	>destruction of those now "respected" works of art. As they 
say
>you 
>	can't
>	>change what has happened..
>	>
>	>Regs
>	>
>	>Richard Hudson
>	>73 Auto White Stag
>	>E-Type series 1 1/2 FHC... maybe .. someday ahhhh
>	>
>	>
>	>	-----Original Message-----
>	>	From:	Ronald Brown 
[SMTP:ronb@domain.elided]
>	>	Sent:	17 June 1998 12:40
>	>	To:	Dave Biggs; Stag Owners Club
>	>	Subject:	Re: star cars
>	>
>	>	Stags that I remember are from Londons Burning 
"Malcolm"
>
>	and
>	>Hazel , which
>	>	featured Nicholas Ball ( sob sob they trashed it with 
a
>garden
>	>fork, of all
>	>	things ).
>	>
>	>	I seem to remember shedding a tear or two at the 
Italian
>Job
>	>"when I were a
>	>	nipper" to see a Ferrari , a DB5, 2 E types and 
numerus
>Mini
>	>Coopers
>	>	written off.  I seem to remember my dad saying that 
they
>were
>	>only body
>	>	shells, oh to have one of them now !
>	>
>	>
>	>	----------
>	>	> From: Dave Biggs <D.Biggs@domain.elided>
>	>	> To: Stag Owners Club <stag@domain.elided>
>	>	> Subject: Re: star cars
>	>	> Date: Monday, 15 June 1998 22:25
>	>	> 
>	>	> Richard Hudson wrote:
>	>	> > 
>	>	> > Dear all
>	>	> > 
>	>	> > With regard to Stags on the telly I recall that
>James Bond
>	>stole/drove
>	>	> > one, I think in Diamonds are Forever, where are 
you 
>	now??
>	>Does anybody
>	>	> > remember the registration number it was 
definitely
>one of
>	>the
>	>	> > pre-production cars and H reg despite the movie
>being
>	>released in 1971.
>	>	> > 
>	>	> > It was early in the film and I seem to recall the
>immortal
>	>Mr Connery,
>	>	> > pretending to be some baddy driving his car 
through 
>	customs
>	>at Dover..
>	>	> > could be wrong any Bond fans out there.
>	>	> > 
>	>	> > Anyone know of any other films / tv shows that
>featured
>	>stags.
>	>	> 
>	>	> Yes it was Diamonds are Forever, right at the
>beginning. It
>	>was a
>	>	> `mustard' colour, H reg (probably RVC???H) and 
the
>sound 
>	was
>	>dubbed over
>	>	> with what seemed like a Triumph Herald !
>	>	> 
>	>	> There was a series on the telly in the UK a couple 
of
>years
>	>ago with a
>	>	> dark red stag but I can't remember the name ! (I 
think
>John
>	>Thaw was in
>	>	> it). A stag did appear once in Eastenders. Also 
there
>was 
>	one
>	>blown up
>	>	> by Jeremy Beadle !
>	>	> 
>	>	> Regards,
>	>	> 
>	>	> Dave.
>	>	> -- 
>	>	> 	Dave Biggs                       
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>
>
>	S.A.Barnett,
>	Deputy Director of Estates,
>	Estates Department,
>	University of Kent,
>	Canterbury,
>	Kent, CT2 7NN.
>
>	Tel: 01227 823612
>	Fax: 761404
>	


S.A.Barnett,
Deputy Director of Estates,
Estates Department,
University of Kent,
Canterbury,
Kent, CT2 7NN.

Tel: 01227 823612
Fax: 761404