RE: [ihc] 401's

["Jim Grammer" <jgrammer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>Interesting point about the engine mount pads on the side of the bell --
>but, I would bet that whatever bell IH used in the Scouts with the AMC 6
>was IDENTICAL to the one in the pick-ups, and had the provision for the
>mounts for the pick-up application. I would also bet that IH did NOT change
>the length of the input shaft on the trannies that got mated with the
>sixes--or the 401's--as compared to what they used with the SV's. SO--that
>means that an IH -- AMC bell would be a lot deeper (reachwise) than any
>other AMC bell.

Just took apart the remains of a '74 SII w/258 a couple weeks ago. Yes on
the input shaft stickout, same as all the other IH trannies I have. No on
the side mount bellhousing bosses. They went with the AMC side mounts and a
single tranny mount for the AMC installs.

>Also--I have no clue about what automatic IH may have mated with the AMC
>6's OR 8's --- but would be willing to bet that it was a 727 that did NOT
>alter the length of the driveline in the vehicles !! This, I THINK would
>mean that there must have been a batch of 727's out there with a rather
>unique case--that would mate with an AMC, but have the length of an IH SV
>727--which, I believe would be significantly longer than the 727's that
>J**p DID use mated with AMC motors for a while----

727 with an AMC bolt pattern and a long tailshaft housing. You're prolly
right about matching the length of an SV setup, it sure looks like it.

>Best plan in my little mind would be to sell each available 401 to a J**p
>nut -- as they will generally pay enough for one to allow you to buy a good
>IC 392 core AND rebuild it !!!! Which sez a LOT about the mentality of J**p
>guys !! :-)

I wish that were the case, but I just established a free market value of a
used 401 at $3-400. I'd have held on to them longer, but they were in the
way of storing *real* engines inside ;)

Jim