RE: [ihc] About those parking brakes .....

[bearbvd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Greg Hermann)]

At 4:30 AM 10/2/04, Steven Stegmann wrote:
>They'll never give up the visual inspections.  They're
>having too much fun.  And that's really what's going
>on.  Driving an old car vs the environmental cost of
>building a new one is a no-brainer from an
>environmental point.  They're just power drunk.
>Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.   Who said that?
>
>Sure sounds like the old Soviet Union to me.
>
>Steve

Why d'ya'll THINK it's now spelled Kaliflournia ??

Another good reason to have a BAR .50 bolt action with about a 20 power
scope and bipod --

Greg

>--- Peter  Shubin <pshubin@domain.elided> wrote:
>
>> I don't think the visual inspections went away in
>> California and unless they
>> changed the law any vehicle, even the smog exempt
>> ones, can be called for a
>> smog test including the full visual inspection.  I
>> had it happen to a '64
>> Bug I had a few years ago.  Found out after the
>> whole ordeal with the State
>> that any do-gooder can report a car that is
>> polluting "too much" and call in
>> the license plate number to the State and then they
>> come after you.  I tried
>> the number tonight and it still connects you to the
>> South Coast Air Quality
>> Management District.
>>
>> All I can say is that modified cars, women, and a
>> sore loser's knowledge of
>> the smog laws here caused me a lot of grief.
>>
>> I feel the need to correct your statement regarding
>> the out of state fees.
>> To my recollection California never said they were
>> "wrong" to charge the
>> fees.  The courts ruled the fees unconstitutional
>> and ordered the State to
>> pay the fees back to the public.  There is a big
>> difference.  Our dear
>> Legislature would never see a tax on a few to
>> "benefit" the many as wrong.
>>
>> Someone else mentioned the mileage driven argument
>> as to why their Scout
>> would not pollute as much as 122 or so of today's
>> SUV's.  You need to be
>> sent to reeducation camp.  Many years ago I went to
>> reeducation camp, sorry,
>> I intended to write graduate school, at Cal Poly
>> Pomona.  Every year my
>> illustrious professors in the College of
>> Environmental Design would invite
>> one or two of the numerous alumni who worked at the
>> SCAQMD to come and talk
>> to the College about suburban sprawl, transportation
>> planning, smog, and how
>> we all had to learn to take the train (the biggest
>> irony of the whole thing
>> is that the SCAQMD office building sits on top of a
>> hill in suburbia with
>> only one steep street for access so you must drive
>> to get there).  One of
>> the arguments they had against old cars is that they
>> were pollution machines
>> even when sitting still.  The argument is that since
>> gasoline evaporates the
>> older cars release pollutants from gas tanks,
>> carburetors, open element air
>> filters, etc. even when they are not running and as
>> a result they need to be
>> destroyed.  This was around the time that the SCAQMD
>> would buy your old car
>> for $600, crush it for you to get it off the road,
>> and sell pollution
>> credits to industrial polluters to cover the money
>> they gave to you for your
>> car.
>>
>> I'm not a scientist and neither were the people who
>> I came in contact with
>> at the SCAQMD.  I don't know if their statements
>> were true but I know that
>> it didn't matter.  They "felt" it was important to
>> get the old cars off the
>> road so it was important to get the old cars off the
>> road.  They had the
>> influence and the public funding to shape the agenda
>> on the issue.  The
>> State is on the verge of becoming non compliant
>> again or already is non
>> compliant again with the requirements of the Federal
>> Clean Air Act so the
>> State must take steps to fix the problem or else
>> risk losing lots of Federal
>> highway funds.  This is how the push to rescind the
>> rolling 30 year
>> exemption started and more attacks on older vehicles
>> are yet to come.  I
>> would not bet money that my two currently SMOG
>> exempt Scouts will be exempt
>> in 2007.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:47 -0600
>> From: "Mac McMuffin" <mac@domain.elided>
>> Subject: RE: [ihc] About those parking brakes .....
>>
>>
>> so are you saying that they can't do those visual
>> inspections anymore?  i
>> remember them saying the out of state fees were
>> wrong and they couldn't do
>> that anymore, but i hadn't heard anything about the
>> emissions visual
>> inspections part.