RE: [ihc] About those parking brakes .....

[Steven Stegmann <steve.stegmann@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Very simple.

If they want power and fuel, build the power plants
and refineries where the stuff will be used.  The
thing that disturbs me about most do-gooders is that
they aren't trying to lower pollution.  Just move it
somewhere else.

Like moving the power plants to Four Corners Az.  I'll
never forgive them for that.

Steve
--- Tom Harais <THarais@domain.elided> wrote:

> The larger the population, the more difficult it is
> to keep the
> movers and shakers on the path of reason. No one
> knows who they are, so they
> can't be shamed into acting sensibly.
> 
> Actually John:
> 
> Population is the driving force behind all the
> issues of the day anyway.
> California is head and shoulders above any other
> state, and probably most
> countries on this factor.  Only, no one wants to
> speak to that.  If
> California's population was half of what it is, the
> resultant environmental
> issues would be cut in half as well.  Thus, the
> utopian drive to legislate
> problems out of existence would not have the urgency
> that our population
> creates.
> 
> The reason I bring this up is, that all these people
> had to come from
> somewhere.  It's not natural growth due to birth
> rates.  They continue to
> come at about 1M per year, mostly from other states.
>  (You Oregon folks that
> think that Californians are moving there in droves
> and ruining your state
> need to review your assumptions!)  
> 
> Now I'm not advocating that we can put a moat around
> the state and just lock
> all newcomers out.  But I'm absolutely flabbergasted
> to know that, even with
> our traffic problems, our environmental issues, our
> poor employment outlook,
> and housing that starts at $500,000/unit
> ($1,500/month for rentals), those
> 1M souls continue to come every year, adding to the
> problems.  
> 
> To put some perspective on it take the population of
> the state where you
> (any of you) live and divide it by your state's
> total area.  Compare this
> to:
> 
> CA 36,000,000 people/164,000 sq mi = 220 people per
> sq mi
> 
> Compare the highest population state to:
> 
> The second most populated state:
> TX 22,000,000 people/262,000 sq mi = 84 people per
> sq mi
> 
> The least populated state:
> WY 501,000 people/97,000 = 5 persons per sq mi
> 
> The largest state:
> AK 648,000 people/572,000 sq mi = 1 person per sq mi
> 
> 
> Keep in mind that there are more cars than people in
> CA at this time
> (literally).  Think of the implications in cars/sq
> mile.
> 
> It's numbers, sheer numbers!  Perhaps madness too. 
> What the heck do you do
> with 36M people?
> 
> Tom H., '76 Traveler