Re: [ihc] Carb help needed

[David Bongo <dbongo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dennis,

Don't sell yourself short.  Or overestimate me.  Your message and Mac's
complemented each other tremendously.

Yes, I do have an auto tranny so kickdown linkage would be an issue. 
You both make good arguements for going with the Weber.  First, if I can
fix the shoke on the Holley, would my only advantage with the Weber be
increased fuel economy?  (i.e. what effect on engine longevity?)

Let's fastforward a bit here, and say I do go with the Weber.  I
currently have the stock exhaust manifold.  Would it be worth it (in my
line of work) to install headers?  My exhaust manifold has a slight
leak, but nothing major.  The exhaust system is pretty "wide open" (No
emissions testing here, if you get my point...)

I can deal with $400 for a Weber if I have to.  Not a big deal and that
could be paid off inside of a year, depending on how gas prices go.

Dave

Dennis Bernth wrote:
> 
> Whoops, guess I should have read all of my messages before posting the other
> one. Mac said what I wanted to say, and probably better. To borrow a leaf
> from Hof's book, have I ever mentioned that I think the Weber would be a
> good upgrade for Dave? :-)
> Dennis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mac @ TRIAD" <mac@domain.elided>
> To: "David Bongo" <dbongo@domain.elided>; "Dennis Bernth"
> <scoutdude@domain.elided>
> Cc: <ihc@domain.elided>
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [ihc] Carb help needed
> 
> > ## >> Thanks for the reply.  I've considered upgrading the carb,
> > ## >> but I'm stuck
> > ## >> with the 1 bbl intake manifold.  Or, I guess I should say, my
> > ## >> understanding is that I'm stuck with a 1bbl intake manifold.  Jeeps,
> > ## >> AFAIK, have 2bbl intake manifolds stock, so I'd not only need the
> > ## >> manifold adapter, but I'd need the whole darn manifold too.
> >
> > no no no no no.  you misunderstood, i think.  the Weber adaptor kit is
> > designed to fit the Weber 2-barrel carb onto a single-barrel manifold
> > throat.  it's a really neat thing, too.  there are a few Scout 80/800 guys
> > that have done this with their 152s and 196s.  the word i've gotten is
> that
> > a tired out old 152 will really roar with that Weber kit installed.  and
> > it's an easy conversion, too.  the hardest part of the whole thing is
> > setting up the kickdown linkage if you have an auto tranny (as i believe
> you
> > do?).  otherwise, it's painless and a bolt-in operation.  the adaptor is
> > basically a two-sided flange.  it has the bottom flange that fits over the
> > studs on your 1-barrel manifold throat just like your original carb does,
> > and then the top flange has the fittings for the Weber 2-barrel.  bolt the
> > adaptor down on the intake, bolt the Weber onto the adaptor, hook
> everything
> > up, and you're done.
> >
> > ## >> There's also the issue of cost.  Fixing the choke is my current
> > ## >> preferred option because it's the cheapest.  For my to drop a
> > ## >> significant amount of extra cash into the fuel system, I'd have to
> see
> > ## >> some real benefits.  Under a "best case" scenario, a $2000
> > ## >> investment in
> > ## >> Mopar SEFI and good exhaust headers would probably have taken me at
> > ## >> least 5 YEARS to make my money back.  Worst case, over 10
> > ## >> years.  Is it
> > ## >> worth it?  I deemed not.
> >
> > and this, of course, is the kicker.  the Weber kit from i believe Summit
> > Racing is about $260 or so, and includes everything you will need to do
> the
> > conversion.  it might be a little more, but i know it was less than $300
> for
> > everything you would need.  i debated doing this conversion to our Scout
> 800
> > with 152, but we wound up trading it out before i got a chance to try it.
> > this conversion is only a bit more than what it will cost you to replace
> the
> > carb you currently have, and it will last a whole lot longer, and provide
> > much better performance.  i hear you can get much better fuel economy with
> a
> > Weber 2-barrel than your old 1-barrel ever got, too.
> >
> > just my nickel.  usual grain of salt disclaimer applies.
> >
> > --Mac
> >
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