Re: More about the dropped pitman arm controversy...

["Mark Young" <myoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

My Scout II Traveler has a four inch over Skyjacker with two inch over
shackles. I ran the dropped pitman arm for awhile but did not like the
slower steering do to shorter pitman arm. The problem with running the drop
pitman arm is in full droop or a full twist where the left front (driver)
spring becomes totally extended. When I measured it was close but I went
ahead and used the drop pitman arm and welded the Scout II pitman arm end to
it to achieve a stock length. Works great! Stock feel steering without the
bump steer. Went four wheeling after the Binder Bash with John Fleck aboard
and could not get it to hit the spring. I gained even more clearance after
making a pretzel out of my draglink and replacing it with a heavy duty Back
Country Binders draglink (there are big advantages to off roading with a
vendor who has a truck full of goodies up at the parking lot)
Stock drag links grease fitting comes straight out and the heavy duty
version from John comes out the side.
http://www.justinternationals.org/Eagle-Mark.htm
Hope that helps!

Mark Young
Fuel Injected Webmaster JustInternationals.org
Scout On, may all your leaks and rust disappear!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joel brodsky" <travelall1974@domain.elided>
To: <ihc@domain.elided>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:36 PM
Subject: More about the dropped pitman arm controversy...


> Binders,
> I've heard on repeated occasions, people tell me that
> if the dropped pitman arm was the full 9.5" in length,
> that it would hit the springs.  Hmmm.  I've got 4
> lifted Scout II/Travelers outside and looking at them,
> I can't see how this would happen.  See, when going to
> lifted springs, it is a REQUIREMENT that one also
> install longer shackles, to accept the spring
> flattening being a longer length.  If this is not
> done, then the excursion of the spring, will max out
> the length of the shackle and stress the spring
> mounts, and this is why (as I can tally of the 15 or
> so breaks I've seen) most of the mounts fatigue and
> become separated from the frame.
>
> So, with the shackles and the springs, I have about 8"
> before the pitman arm would hit the springs, thus I
> can go 4" without impinging a thing.  So, please
> clarify for me, if I'm missing the issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> JoelB
>
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