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[Fwd: L-Jetronic (E30) Air Flow meter]
- Subject: [Fwd: L-Jetronic (E30) Air Flow meter]
- From: Dog-n-Hog <woody@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 08:09:07 -0600
Attached is a response I sent to the original poster. I believe
all info is correcte (or as close as can be expected without
enough coffee in me this early in the morning:)). Hopefully
this ends up in an archive for later retrieval .. ASCII art is
a real pain :(.
Norm
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To: Bruce Rehm <brehm@domain.elided>
Subject: Re: L-Jetronic (E30) Air Flow meter
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Bruce,
Sorry, I wasn't real clear on the topic. The four terminals are:
o AFM "potentiometer" (+) reference terminal. This is one of the
outer pins of the pot, and is supplied with power (typically
some positive reference voltage) by the vehicle wiring harness.
Connect 1 side of your 1.5V battery to this terminal.
o AFM "potentiometer" (-) ground terminal. This is the other of
the outer pins of the pot, and is typically connected to ground
by the vehicle wiring harness.
Connect the other side of your 1.5 battery to this terminal.
o AFM "potentiometer" wiper terminal. This terminal is the one
that supplies the flap position information to the ECM.
Connect your (+) DVM lead to this terminal. Connect the (-) lead
of your DVM to either of the two terminals listed above.
o The fourth AFM terminal is used for air temperature indication
to the ECM (the AFM housing contains a temperature probe as well).
The ASCII art below details the internals of the AFM (according to the
1985 E30 BMW Electrical Troubleshoting Manual). The pinout designations
are as follows:
318 (Early) 318 (Late) 325
Wiring Wiring Wiring
Harness Harness Harness
------- ------- -------
Gnd (-) 5 5 5
Ref (+) 1 1 7
Wiper 2 7 9
Air Temp 4 4 8
Not Used 3 3 X
Gnd (-) Wiper Ref (+) Not Used
o o o o
| | | |
| | | | / Air
| | | +----/\/\/\/----+---o Temp
| | | | / |
| | | | |
| | +----/\/\/\/-----+----/\/\/\/\---+
| | |
| v |
+-------/\/\/\/\/\/\/\---------+
AFM Potentiometer
I've got a 325, and I discovered that the pinout information in the Bentley
manual
was incorrect (the correct wiring harness info is listed above). If you have
a 318, I'm not sure what is meant by "early" vs. "late" production in in the '85
ETM. I also have not looked into the associated Bentley info, but do make
certain
you are addressing the correct sections in the manual (L-Jectronic vs.
Motronic).
I cannout say whether or not the listed 318 pinsout info in the Bentley or ETM
manuals are correct.
The most certain way to check this is to open the cover of the AFM and check the
mechanical connections/layout (the cover can be reinstalled and held down with
some
RTV).
Good luck, and hope this helps.
Norm
Bruce Rehm wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the reply. Question though: the AFM has four terminals.
> Which one are you referring to as the center terminal?
>
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dog-n-Hog [mailto:woody@domain.elided]
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:35 PM
> To: Bruce Rehm
> Subject: Re: L-Jetronic (E30) Air Flow meter
>
> The Bentley test for the AFM is bullshit. The AFM uses a
> bridge network, not a simple potentiometer.
>
> To test it:
>
> o Disconnect the AFM from the vehicle's wiring harness.
>
> o Apply a whetting (sp?) voltage across the outer terminals
> of the AFM "potentiometer". A simple 1.5 volt AA battery will work
> just fine, and polarity is not important.
>
> o Connect the (+) terminal of a DVM (set to voltage, not continuity)
> to the center terminal of the AFM "potentiometer", and the (-) terminal
> of the DVM to same outer terminal of the AFM to which you connected the
> (-) terminal of the 1.5V battery.
>
> o Move the flap of the AFM from one extreme to the other, and your
> DVM should show a smooth voltage sweep from 0.0V to 1.5V (or
> whatever voltage your small battery is).
>
> Norm
>
> Bruce Rehm wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had comments/experience with the Bentley bench
> > test regarding the air flow meter for the L-Jetronic.
> >
> > Mine is an 85 318i, 130K, with a variety of fuel injection related
> symptoms
> > that I am trying to tackle in a systematic way with the procedures
> outlined
> > in the Bentley. My mechanic had pointed out to me that someone had
> > apparently tampered with the air flow meter (clearly the black plastic cap
> > had been removed and replaced) and suggested replacing it as part of
> solving
> > the idle and rich running problems I had. As per the Bentley, I tested the
> > resistance as the air flap inside the meter moved, and found the
> resistance
> > flattened out and dipped along the travel of the flap, so ordered a
> > replacement. Trouble is the replacement tested out similarly before I
> > installed it. The parts supplier I bought it from was a little pissy about
> > the whole thing when I suggested it may be faulty and told me to install
> it
> > and see what happened.
> >
> > So I installed it - the car runs slightly better, but still feels like
> it's
> > running rich (I haven't pulled the plugs since doing the work). Does
> anyone
> > have any comment as to the validity of the test as outlined in the book?
> I'm
> > reluctant to say that it is defective as I realize there may well be
> > additional parts replacement I need to do before I get to the bottom of
> all
> > this. But if the test is valid I want to exchange the meter.
> >
> > Any input appreciated - sorry for the long post.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > Bruce Rehm
> > Pacific Technologies, Inc.
> > 425 881-3991
> > brehm@domain.elided
> > mailto:brehm@domain.elided
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