Re: [alfa] Re: Mosko's moronic comments

[hagen_jason@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Mosko,

You are obviously a very cool guy based on your response to my caustic assertion.  Thanks for goiing easy on me.  Again, I feel the issue with Alfa prices is more a demand issue than a supply side issue.  E-bay is a good case in point as it typically will find the efficient clearing price for a product, including Alfas, as enough people are able to view and bid, thus ensuring decent visibility and exposure of the product.

I sure hope that Alfas continue to appreciate.  That way I can someday get the $20K+ back I spent restorin my Spider (though I have pledged to never sell it).  I don't think asking more for our cars will solve the problem.  Besides this would take a coordinated effort across the entire US market.  Often referred to as a form of price fixing.

Take care,


--
Jason Hagen
Chicago, IL
'73 Spider
'95 164Q
> Dear Jason: 
> 
> Your cup is half empty; mine is half full. I believe Alfa prices are going up 
> as we argue the issue. Case in point are your cars. Sports Car Market 
> Magazine (50,000) circulation, edited by Keith Martin who originally created the 
> magazine as an Alfa Romeo Newsletter, has become the leading authority on sports 
> car prices in the country.The price guides show a low-range and a high range 
> for #2 cars. Not mint Concours winning cars but nice everyday drivers in good 
> condition. #1 cars sell for premiums of up to 50% and more (my opinion).
> 
> The lastest SCM price guide shows your '73 spider to be worth $8000 in number 
> #2 condition and indicates that the valuation of your car increased 8% over 
> last year.when it was valued at $7000. Your '95 164Q is valued at $16.500 in 
> the SCM guide and did not go up in value. On the other hand, according to SCM, 
> in 2003 your Q dropped 17% in value compared to 2002. This means that 
> depreciation has stopped on your car. And if your Q is as good as you say it is 
> you 
> might find a buyer at more than $16,500. 
> 
> " I think Mosko's needs to take a few economics classes at the local 
> community college..."
> 
> I know a little bit about economics, the marketplace and business, Jasen. My 
> faculty ID number at the University of Phoenix is 100368536. I teach courses 
> at the Bachelors level in International Business, Management and Marketing. For 
> the past 28 years I've run the business I created in the hobby industry, 
> employ 25 and dominate the niche we occupy within that industry. For info to: 
> www.modelexpo-online.com. 
> 
> I want to encourage everyone to not give their cars away unless they are 
> beaters. In that  case you have little choice. Also, a good place to stay in 
> touch 
> with Alfa prices is in the Alfa Owner magazine, which has greatly expanded 
> its classified section. It is now free of charge to anyone selling their Alfa. 
> The format, look and content has also improved greatly under our new publisher, 
> Parabolica in Los Angeles.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 3/13/2004 12:05:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> owner-alfa-digest@domain.elided writes:
> 
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 02:35:34 +0000
> From: hagen_jason@domain.elided
> Subject: Re: [alfa] Re: ALFA Youth
> 
> Point #3 below if the stupidest Alfa digest point I have read in over a year 
> and a half of reading.  Not only does it not make any micro-economic sense, it 
> is completely counter-intuitive and  \moronic.  Seriously.
> 
> OK, let's all just ask more for our cars and people will gladly pay.  That is 
> absurd.
> 
> I don't know, maybe that is just too much practical business experience and 
> wasted education (and a bottle of nice wine on a Friday night) speaking.
> 
> I will test point #3 by asking $20,000 for my fully restored '73 Spider and 
> $20,000 for my mint '95 164Q.  I can hardly wait to blow this money on a 
> Ferrari restoration project or a nice used BMW 7 series.  I think Mosko's needs 
> to 
> take a few economics classes at the local community college...
> 
> - --
> Jason Hagen
> Chicago, IL
> '73 Spider
> '95 164Q
> >     Alan, you should write an email to Mark Mosko about your concerns, I
> > did, and he's been very prompt to reply with his reasonings.  I can't say I
> > agree, but I am glad to see someone at least trying to do *something* to get
> > the club shaken up a little.  I can condense his points to:
> > 
> > 1.  Lots of old ALFAs are in need of salvation, and the owners might be
> > surprised how little it could cost to rejuvenate them
> > 2.  Mark believes his collection of vintage ALFAs is going to appreciate in
> > value faster than stocks
> > 3.  ALFA Owners are our own worst enemies to the price of our cars, ALFA
> > enthusiasts "give away" their cars when they aren't fun anymore.  He
> > believes that outsiders will gladly pay more for ALFAs.
> > 
> >     I don't think you'll change his mind, but send him your concerns!
> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:31:14 -0500
> > > From: ALFAXTC@domain.elided
> > > Subject: [alfa] Alfa Youth vs. Mark Mosko
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