[alfa] Re: alfa 147 Crash Test Pic

[Joe Elliott <jee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Where did you find crash test data for older European cars like the 
164, Milano, and Spider???  I've been looking for years without 
success.  (I've never understood why the US government refuses to 
release more information about their own testing and accident data.) 
I'd also like the URL describing the side-impact on the GTV-6, if you 
have it handy.  I imagine that a 2-door chassis from the '70s would 
do pretty poorly in a pole/tree collisions, but I'd like to read the 
details.  Such impacts can be fatal in any car at 15mph, so if 
somebody survived 50mph, I'd really like to know how.

I longtime-owner of an Alfa repair shop once told me that in his 
experience, the Milano was actually safer than the 164 in severe 
frontal collisions, citing the 164's tendency for the roof to cave in 
in such accidents.  Given the SAAB 9000 connection, that surprised 
me, but if anyone would know, it was him.  (He also said that among 
'60s-70s sports cars, Alfas were by far the safest based on the 
accident victims that he had as customers in the '70s.)

-Joe

At 5:27 PM +0000 2/5/04, alfa-digest wrote:

> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:40:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: danny P <robustful@domain.elided>
> Subject: RE: [alfa] alfa 147 Crash Test Pic
>
> I looked at some more tests from other sites and the
> Alfa 147 consistently did not fare well at all.  I was
> thinking the same thing, the body absorbed the impact.
>  But in comparison to the other cars ie. Bm% and all,
> the cars looked really good.  Even the Hon$% S2000
> looked really nice.  One site I saw rated the 147
> lowest or second to lowest in frontal impacts. (really
> doing damage to the driver and passenger.)  On a
> better note, the Milano did Average and the 164 did
> good but not best.  All the spiders up to 94 did
> awful.  Does anyone have any info. on 83 GTV-6s?  I
> searched gtv6.org and there was one guy who pretty
> much split his GTV-6 when he slid into a tree at 50
> m.p.h..  Not too comforting.  I've heard 164s roll
> over at 50 and they did great.  Just rolled it back
> over and drive it to the mechanic.  What does this
> mean to me?  Make sure I don't get hit.  Super
> Defensive driving I guess is the best bet.
>
> Danny
> Dallas, Texas
> 83 gtv6
> 91 164L
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