Re: [alfa] RE: 164 up in flames

[sherwood white <vze2skmv@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

high pressure fuel hose is not 30r7 it is r8 or r9 not r7 do not use it on the
pressure side

Jason Hagen wrote:

> I have purchased some of this exact SAE 30R7 5/16" (7.9M) dia. hose and
> noticed that the wall thickness is thinner than the stock hose on my 164Q.
> Wouldn't this be a concern?  Is the quality acceptable?  Also, the short
> hoses that run between the injector rails seem to be 7.5mm ID according to
> the hose label.  Should this be so?  They may not be original.  Any comment?
> Is this actually meant for 8.0 mm as well?
>
> Injector seals-- do you mean both top and bottom?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jason Hagen
>
> >From: "Graham Davis" <grahamldavis@domain.elided>
> >Reply-To: "Graham Davis" <grahamldavis@domain.elided>
> >To: alfa-digest@domain.elided
> >Subject: [alfa] RE: 164 up in flames
> >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:32:01 -0500
> >
> >IMHO, neither the car nor it's design is the problem; simply lack of
> >maintenance.  Rubber parts do not last indefinitely whether they be
> >hoses, belts or bushings.  I'm told by a local specialist that Ferrari
> >specifies that their cars be re-bushed annually ($!!!)  I was rooting in
> >a salvage yard this last weekend and saw several roasted cars, BMW's,
> >Mercedes, Volvo's, etc.; all having suffered engine bay fires.  Even now
> >there is a Ferrari 308 on eBay, #2431432981 that has apparently suffered
> >the same fate.  When I found how easy and inexpensive it was to replace
> >the fuel hoses on my Milano, I purchased what was required and did the
> >deed.  If it makes you more comfortable to spend for imported metric fuel
> >hose, that's OK.  I just went to AutoZone and bought enough high pressure
> >Fuel & Emissions  SAE 30R7 5/16" (7.9M) dia. hose @ $1.00 per foot to
> >replace everything.  I retained the cup washers per Alfa's (Bosch)
> >design but replaced the band clamps with stainless steel ones from a
> >240Z.  Two years, 3 months and 32000 miles later I have experienced no
> >leaks.  FWIW, if you choose to tackle this, do replace the seals on the
> >injector nozzles.  As to Milano's up in flames,  yes, they are/were
> >famous for collecting leaf litter in the heater air intake which also
> >housed and cooled the fan motor speed resistor.  An Alfa design?  I doubt
> >it.  The units were more likely designed by the vendor who supplied them,
> >Behr Gmbh. At any rate, the units were produced at Behr's plant in Ft.
> >Worth, Texas. Simple and cheap ($2.50) fix: make a leaf screen for the
> >air intake below the windshield apron.   Great.  An Italian car with a
> >German engine management/fuel system (Bosch), steering and transaxle
> >(ZF), clutch, shock absorbers (Sachs) and much of the hydraulics (ATE -
> >Alfred Teves) minus a couple of Brembo items; wheel bearings from Brazil
> >(Timken), some of the Jaeger electronics made in France and a USA built
> >heater.  And now you know why I have this ITALY sticker on the back of my
> >car!  Not complaining; beats anything for the money made anywhere else!
> >Just my $.02.
> >
> >Graham L. Davis
> >
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