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You mean Michael Schumacher's car refuses to break. Rubin Barrachelo's seems to break often enough. But your point is well taken. Italians' reputation for building poor quality stuff has two, possibly three origins. Number 1 were the tiny Fiats sold here in the USA directly after WWII. With their poor quality Magnetti Marelli electrical system (Magnetti Marelli stuff was so bad, that Alfa went to Lucas in the mid to late '50's for improved (!) quality) and with their tiny motors which were unsuited for American driving conditions, the cars didn't fare very well. Number 2 was the 'socialist' steel Italy's government made the Italian car manufacturers use in the late 60's through the early '80's. Italian cars got the (deserved) reputation as rust buckets. And thirdly, the Manlicher-Carcano rifle with which JFK was shot was widely reported as being of very poor quality at the time, which didn't help much. On the other hand, I've a friend with a 1981Fiat 131. Yeah, it has some rust. Yeah, its interior looks cheap.. But It's not. The car is beautifully screwed together. There isn't a rattle in it. It's also pretty quick and handles very well. My own Alfa GTV-6 is 16 years old (and no rust) and yet it too hasn't a rattle or a squeek in it anywhere. Everything about the car just oozes quality. The materials, from the thick carpeting, to the gauge of the body steel to the fit of the panels is first-rate. My GTV-6 looks like an expensive car -anywhere you look. Last year while in Italy, I visited the Uberti Arms manufacturing plant and watched Italian craftsmen put together replicas of American 19th century black powder guns, both revolvers and rifles. They were beautifully machined and carefully fit together. In other words, the Italian reputation for poor quality is largely unwarranted.



On Friday, September 20, 2002, at 03:30 AM, alfa-digest wrote:



Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:49:46 -0600
From: C M Smith <cmsmith@domain.elided>
Subject: Rebirth of Italian Engineering

Er, anyone who still thinks Italians build poor quality stuff obviously has
been paying no attention to F1 lately. Ferrari is now so dominant all the
crapola about the supposed advantages of the team management, driving
skill, etc etc is thoroughly debunked. These Ferraris are flat out the
meanest, baddest racing machines ever. They are faster, handle better, and
use less fuel than any of the others, by along shot. Heck they even use
Bridgestone tires which on the next fastest cars using them are clearly
junk. And they refuse to break, the Ferraris, not the Bridgestones.

Last America's Cup, the yacht that challenged the NZ boat was designed and
built by Italians (and sailed by Italians, albeit with a Brazilian
tactician). Sure they lost 4 straight, but they whipped everybody else
(Kiwis build fast sailboats and breed very, very fast sailors, it's the water!)

I tell you, if Alfa comes back to North America, it will be with great
cars. Italians have historically been great engineers (the darned word is
Italian) and even better manufacturers. Come to think of it, they are great
naval architects, and practically invented modern trade and business
financing. Modern management methods originated in Italy. There was some
dude named Machiavelli that re invented politics. Is there anything they
haven't done first and best?

Cheers


Michael Smith
Calgary, Alberta,Canada
91 Alfa 164L
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