re: Define "transaxle Alfa"

[Joe Elliott <jee@domain.elided>]

Let's not forget that the Alfa 6 (the car, not the engine) had a 
deDion rear end, but a conventionally-located gearbox.
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~jee/junk/cutaways/alfa6(car)rear_end.jpg
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~jee/junk/cutaways/alfa6(car)cutaway.jpg


At 6:17 PM -0400 7/21/02, alfa-digest wrote:

> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:01:11 EDT
> From: AlfaNeely@domain.elided
> Subject: Define "transaxle Alfa"
>
>       The "Transaxle" Alfas are the Alfetta in sedan and coupe versions, the
> GTV-6 and the Milano.  The 164 may have a transaxle, but it is WRONG WHEEL
> DRIVE and therefore, deserves a different designation.  <GRIN>
>       There were other "Transaxle" Alfas not imported here.  The short trunk
> Giulietta sedan comes immediately to mind.  I am not sure where if the SZ and
> RZ had a transaxle or not, but I think they must have as they did have a
> DeDion rear axle.
>       I guess the "Transaxle" Alfas might have been know as the "DeDion"
> Alfas just as easily.
>
>       With any luck I might be out of the transaxle Alfa business by Monday.
> I have a potential buyer coming to look at my two Milanos and I hope he will
> take both Alfetta sedans as well.  Then I will be down to only about eight
> Alfas, mostly spiders plus a GTV and a Super.  Plus some Alfa parts cars.
>
> Ciao,
> Russ Neely
> Oklahoma City
>
> In a message dated 07/20/2002 5:26:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
> owner-alfa-digest@domain.elided writes:
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:05:53 -0400
> > From: <maxid@domain.elided>
> > Subject: Define "transaxle Alfa"
> >
> > I don't want to pretend that I don't know what people on the Digest mean
> > they
> > refer to "transaxle Alfas". But for North American purposes, wouldn't the
> > term
> > include the 164 (and all post-FIAT marketed designs except SZ/RZ)?
> >
> > In North American automotive lingo, from what I understand, a 
> transaxle is a
> > transmission and a differential built together in the same housing.
> > Mechanics
> > will tell you that a Mitsubishi Mirage (and any other 
> Issoginnis-like design
> > with a transversal front engine and FWD) doesn't need a new transmission,
> > but
> > a new TRANSAXLE.
> >
> > In Europe on the other hand, the term transaxle seems to be defined as a
> > transmission and differential that are built together AND separate from the
> > engine, as used on the Alfetta and its derivatives, Porsche 924 and its
> > derivatives, and current offerings from Ferrari and Maserati.
> >
> > Any comments on my observation that "transaxle" is variably defined and any
> > ideas as to the preferred term for the split design we all love 
> and respect.
> >
> > Sonny '91 164S
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