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Lofty Aspirations: My GTV6 racer
- Subject: Lofty Aspirations: My GTV6 racer
- From: Brad Porter <bporter@domain.elided>
- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:44:36 -0500
Hello All,
Well, I'm sure no one here remembers me, but I've been on the list
for several years. I can't even remember the last time I posted or kept
current with other's posts. Occupational busyness has caused general
inactivity with my hobbies for the last few years. This year seems, in an
eerily familiar way, like it may be the year that I finally have the time
and resources to get back into building my GTV6 racer.
My GTV6 racer project started with the intention of restoring my
'83 GTV6. Basically, I started dismantling the car, and found two
things. First, there are so many little problems (body rust, trashed
interior, poorly repaired previous crash damage) that it would be easier,
and no doubt cheaper, to just buy a good southern car if I want a nice
stock specimen. The second thing I found was that the car was much easier
to push around the garage with all the non-essential pieces removed - and
this got me thinking, "this thing would go like a scalded cat if I could
get it started... and it had a drivers seat in it". Smart one, I am.
Additionally, I thought that it will surely be less work to simply
do what is necessary to make the car go, rather than what is necessary to
make it go back and forth seventy miles to work in Michigan weather. So my
need for speed and my laziness took a vote, and it was unanimous. Stripped
down racer it is.
So, now I'm trying my best to think up all sorts of complications
and additional work that I can do to ensure that the project never actually
gets done - this isn't what I WANT to do, but I can't help it, it's just my
nature. There are four such things currently floating around in my head
which I'm anxious to hear opinions on and get help with. Now would be a
good time to mention that I'm not concerned about the affect these changes
would have on classification of my car for racing. I just want to put
together an enhanced car and take it racing, against whatever turbine
powered carbon fiber monsters I happen to be classed with. I'm not
interested in winning. Let me rephrase that: winning is not my primary
interest. So here's my short list:
1) Coil overs up front. We'll start simple here. My car is structurally
sound, with no rust in the shock tower area. I also have the contacts and
tools (but not the skills, yet) to do major sheet metal surgery,
fabrication and machining. Should I even consider coil overs?
2) Home built, welded in safety cage. It won't surprise me at all to one
day watch a bunch of upside down race cars drive past me on the ceiling,
but bolt together roll cages just give me the creeps. I want something
more substantial (if you drove like me, you would too). I have three
questions concerning roll cages. First, what makes a roll cage legal for
SCCA racing? The bolt-in kits are pre-approved by the SCCA, but if I build
my own is it just a matter of having it inspected and deemed acceptable, or
is there more to it?
My second question is on the construction: where are the best
places to tie a cage to the car's existing structure? The rear shock
towers and the lateral brace beneath the rear seat seem like obvious
choices, but what about up front? Any pointers to literature/websites/etc.
that I should check out would be appreciated.
Third, what material and size should I use? I've researched
fabricating tubular motorcycle frames and found that 1018 CREW is generally
accepted as a good choice - is this the same for roll cages?
3) Light weight fiberglass doors. The GTV6's doors are _heavy_! They will
certainly slow down my smoldering little feline. The way I figure it, if
I'm going to build a safety cage, it only makes sense that side impact
beams should be incorporated - but the doors are in the way. The doors
have their own beams (and a large chunk of lead as well, I'm guessing), but
the doors seem to add little, if any, rigidity to the overall
structure. So doesn't it make sense to make light weight fiberglass doors
to cover the permanent and presumably stronger side impact beams that are
part of the safety cage, enhancing safety and rigidity? These things just
make so much sense on paper! I know there's one fella (here in the States,
I think) who builds fiberglass doors for his Alfetta racer, and will also
sell them - but I don't know how much they are (if you have to ask...).
4) Oh, I'm gonna wish I hadn't put this in here. How do I approach this
delicately? Has anyone ever though about replacing the DeDion rear
suspension with fully independent upper/lower control arms mounted on a
subframe that bolts to the existing DeDion & Watts linkage mount points? I
know those points weren't meant to bear the weight of the car, or the
various horizontal forces that such a system could transfer to them, but
the mount points could be reinforced, and the existing shock and spring
locations could be retained. I also realize that the DeDion arrangement in
general, and Alfa's implementation in particular, is elegant, refined and
works very well. In reality, there is almost no chance that I would ever
engineer and construct such a replacement sub-system - but to me, the
DeDion just seems like something that should be fiddled with, or at the
very least, it's something that I should think about fiddling with.
Well, I hope I haven't annoyed anyone with my
soon-to-never-be-completed ideas for messing around with what is a damn
good package until hacks like me get their paws on it. Boy, I'm sure glad
I didn't mention my FieRo-meo idea, which I'm sure would get me kicked off
the list on general principal. Oops, I guess I did mention it ;-). At
least I'm not stupid enough to push my luck by telling anyone about my
plans to put my big block nitrous motor in a Spider! I think I better go
to bed now...
Finest Regards,
-Brad Porter Williamston, Michigan USA
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/5300
ICQ: 3011142
83 Silver Alfa Romeo GTV6 (The Good Twin)
85 Black Alfa Romeo GTV6 (The Evil Twin)
88 Pontiac Fiero GT (The Italian-American Step-sister?)
88 Pontiac Fiero Coupe (one of these days... ;-) )
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