Re: LA Robot traffic ticket

[Carlo_Cardilli@domain.elided]

Successfully fought a ticket on the Oakland maze (approach to the SF Bay
Bridge) for an illegal lane change (crossed solid line trying to weave onto
E-580).  Merge area did not comply with federal regs.  I pulled my copy of
the Fed manual on traffic devices etc. and this is what it says:

4B-12
Number and Location of Faces
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85 Percentile Speed Minimum Visibility Distance
(mph)                    (feet)
20                  175
30                  270
40                  390
50                  540

4B-15
Vehicle Change Interval
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"Yellow vehicle change intervals should rnge approximately 3-6 seconds.
Generally the longer approach intervals are appropriate to higher approach
speeds."

So, depending on the facts of your case, you can contest claiming that the
signal was not properly placed and that the yellow interval was too short.



> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: "Brian Shorey" <bshorey@domain.elided>
> Subject: RE: Los Angeles robot traffic ticket
>
> i fought a yellow/red light ticket once, although it was given by a human
> and not a robot.  i tto was under the impression that it was a short
> that data, taken into account with the posted speed limit leading up to
the
> light, clearly showed that the time spent during the yellow phase was too
> short, according to state guidelines (i called the state police for that
> data).  the grade leading up to the light was not an issue in my case,
but

> -----Original Message-----
> Marty Stuczynski
> Subject: Los Angeles robot traffic ticket
>
>
>  While visiting Los Angeles I ran a yellow light and was photographed by
> one of their robot cameras ( Wilshire and Sepulveda Sts. ) .
>  This intersection seems like a trap to me as it's a long downhill to
> what seems a short-duration yellow light. I received the fine notice in
> the mail......$271.00 !! Sure enough the photo shows my license plate
> clearly and my face as well.
>  Big brother is here. Has anybody fought the robot?
>
>  -Marty

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