RE: [OLDIHC:] Re: [ihc] wheels again, dual>single conversions?

["Ed Sohm" <idaemes@xxxxxxxxxx>]

It seems like that would be hell on wheel bearings, a spacer and all.
Especially on a vehicle meant to carry a heavier load.  I understand
being able to use the same rims and all, it just looks weak to have all
that leverage on the wheelbearings.  

Ed


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ihc@domain.elided [mailto:owner-ihc@domain.elided] On Behalf Of
Greg Hermann
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:52 PM
To: oldihc@domain.elided
Cc: ihc@domain.elided; oldihc@domain.elided
Subject: Re: [OLDIHC:] Re: [ihc] wheels again, dual>single conversions?


At 12:27 PM 5/10/04, David Raistrick wrote:

Usually, if the front hubs are for dual wheels, the wheel flange will be
set pretty far out from the drum, and the drum will be mounted on a
spearate flange---or the drum will be different, and have a pretty deep
'hat' section to it--so as to work with the same backing plate as is
used
with single wheels.

The idea here is to keep the contact patch of the tire/track width in
the
same place/same width when dual wheels are used instead of singles on
the
front.

Mounting single wheels on front hubs meant for the deeper backset of
duals
WILL alter the steering geometry and handling to a significant degree.
Thus, not a good idea.

Greg

>On Mon, 10 May 2004, Greg Hermann wrote:
>
>
>> >The bolt-circle area is a flat section of metal with 6 holes.  The
holes
>> >are chamfered, alternating one in, one out.
>>
>> The word here is 'coined'.
>
>Ah ha! Thanks.
>
>> NO idea what these (front ??) wheels are from.
>
>I've got 5 of these, 4 installed on the corners and 1 spare.  After
some
>more picture hunting, it looks like these might be the stock 3/4 ton
>wheels.
>
>You can see the "domed" area on the wheel on this 3/4 ton '61 C-120
4x4:
>http://www.mindstreamtech.com/ih/high/exterior/wheel%20-%20driver%20fro
nt.JPG
>
>I have to assume that the mounting surface behind this is domed to
match,
>somehow.
>
>
>> On at least SOME (the 4x4's for sure) pre- '69 1 tons, IH used dually
>> wheels ONLY on the rear when a truck was equipped with duallys !!
Yep--from
>> the factory, the front ALWAYS came with single type wheels !!
>
>I have a picture of my truck in '68 with the dual-type wheels installed
on
>the front:
>
>http://www.icantclick.org/gallery/b130/60_b130_1968
>
>Of course, anything can be changed...
>
>> At least on the 1 ton 4x4's, until '69, IH did NOT provide front hubs
with
>> the wheel flange further outboard so as to accomodate the deeper
backset of
>> dually wheels ! After '69, they did, but that was also when they
switched
>> to the 8 hole lug pattern on the 1 tons.
>
>
>> You haven't said whether your B-130 is a 2x4 or a 4x4, nor have you
said
>> what size the wheels are. I do have some 17" Budd 6 hole (single)
split
>> rims around if two of them might help---
>
>Sorry about that, 2x4, 16" wheels on all the ones I have. (4 single
wheels
>on the truck, 4 dual-type wheels off the truck..tires wouldn't even
think
>about holding air..)
>
>
>--
>        David Raistrick
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