RE: Think before you buy...

[Steve Stegmann <stegmann@domain.elided>]

Ken,

I didn't know there was anyone on the list who heard of MVS. I know people
who actually think TSO is a user friendly system. Gives me the shivers to
just think about it.

'Course these same folks actually prefer to work in assembly language,
"cause then you know what's really happening"

Has anyone built a debugger for MVS or do they still use "test mode" and
core-dumps.

Steve

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On Fri, 7 May 1999, Farmer wrote:

> Jeff "I've got something buggin' me" Bade wrote:
> > And build a real machine that will actually do the stuff you want it
> > to...(I.E. IH or computer.)
> Yeah, build something that'll run software from years ago - an MVS ES9000!
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> You can run programs compiled 15+ years ago, connect 1000s of users.  It's
> the computing equilent of IH:  in the industry these are the mainframes
> called "big iron".  What? You say you need portability?  Fine, the 9000 can
> run a posix compliant version of unix as well.  It's the world's biggest
> web server.  What?  You want affordability, and an architectural standard
> consistent with all your other small-computing platforms?  Fine, how about
> an HP Numa?
> 
> Actually, after working on huge data warehouses (just designed an 8 tbyte
> one for US West), and lately computer telephony solutions involving
> technology with a half-life of six months...it sure is a pleasure to work
> with IH!
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> Yup, whenever my neo-luddite body needs a relief from all this transient,
> sometimes superficial technology, I just hop in my Scout and putter around
> town.  That, BTW, is what initially attracted me to my IHs.  It wasn't cost
> or capability, it was the fact that they run great after 25 years, and will
> probably run great another 25 (depending on parts availability & fed/state
> regulations).
> 
> Ken Farmer
> pharmer@domain.elided
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