On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:15:40 -0500, Kevin Curry wrote: >On the 484 the loop is >separate and tacked on an on the 485 it is part of the cast. (That's what >I could tell by the picture, anyway) My 'loop' is bolted on so I can place as needed to winch or clamp. Jerry Whitteridge jrwhitt@domain.elided 91 Jeep Wrangler 79 Scout II