WANNA BE RACER THINKS CLUB RACING IS NOT RACING (ALL READ

[mark kibort <mkibort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

PLEASE)

SORRY FOR MY EMAIL SERVER, BUT READ BELOW FOR MY RESPONSE TO THIS WANNA
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RACER
>From: Matthew Yip <mgyip@domain.elided>
Subject: Re: The Annoying Mr Kibort

> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:04:52 -0800
> From: "Peter Vinsel" <pcv@domain.elided>
> Subject: RE: Mark (the great annoying) Kibort
>
> As a matter of fact, I have met Mark and have raced with him at Sears
Point
> and Thunderhill.  He is a skilled racer, someone I feel comfortable
racing
> wheel to wheel with.

I race with a few people that, off the track, are self-centered pricks -
=
on
the
track, they're merely competitors.  I rarely feel uncomfortable with
competitors -
the clueless wonders usually end up stuffed in a wall anyway - it's
sorta=

like
nature, it's self policing.

> If you don't think that BMW CCA Club Racing is "real" racing, check
out=

some of the
>
> close duelling between us from a different perspective than most of
you=

have
> ever seen.

It isn't real racing.  Any organization that considers a spin an
incident=

is a more
concerned about appeasing their insurance company representative than
the=

participants.  Real racing doesn't mean hitting your competitors, it
just=

means that
you won't get punished by Big Brother if you happen to touch fenders.<

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wow, you realy need some help.

You right I need help - I dropped a valve and might not be ready for the
'99 season - send your donations to me.  My car doesn't use an ERAM or
any other go-fast goodies, just good old fashioned elbow grease to get
it ready - no, I don't have a big shop backing me, just me and a few
car-crazed buddies that realize that racing's the only way to go.

>BMW club racing, NASA club racing, is real racing the comaraderie is
outstanding.

Do you read what's written or do you just spew off without thinking?  I
never ever said it wasn't great camaraderie, just not real racing.

> How great is it to run 10 laps, get a sweat going , see acouple of
spins  or close calls
come back to the pits and exchange laughs with your new found friends. =

You only run 10 laps? - that won't even get the car warmed up

>I blew a radiator hose at a PCB Porsche BMW race 15 min. before my
race. =
>some guy that I didnt even know, comes over
>right next to another stranger with a new bottle of watter wetter,and
fresh
>water.     I hate to say it, but I dont think anyone besides just a
select
>(well adjusted few) would be that charitable.   THESE WERE BMW GUYS
TOO
>AND I WAS IN A V8 PORSCHE AT THE TIME.

Sorta like the Longest Night of Moroso this year - lots of folks with
very dissimilar cars all pitching in to help each other - been there,
lent and borrowed that.

>YOU EVER HEARD of PROFESSIONAL RACING, IS WON IN THE PITS.   >GREAT,
just what I want to do have my pit crew win the race. WELL CLUB >RACING
IS WON ON THE TRACK.  =

>THATS THE DIFFERENCE.

Ever done an amateur endurance race?  That's won in the pits as well -
again, been there, done that.

>Are you a racer. or an armchair racer.   It takes a hell of a lot more
>skill to not hit someone when its your dime than to bump someones
fender
>because you loose car control.

Am I a racer?  Go figure - that is if you actually read my drivel before
posting your more voluminous drivel.  If you lose car control, that's
your problem - it means you don't know what you're doing and should be
behind the pit wall, not in front of it.

>IF BMW CLUB RACING OR NASA IS NOT RACING, HOW COME REAL >RACERS THAT
HAVE
>RACED LE MAN ARE OUT THERE MORE THAN US,  EVERY SINGLE >EVENT??

BTW, it's Le Mans - doubt your spell checker would have found that one -
it's in France, ya know, across the big pond on the OTHER side of the
country.

'Nuf said.  End of topic.
- --
Matthew Yip
mgyip@domain.elided

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