Re: Too Lean???

["Tim Gergen" <m3gizmo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you for dispelling the myth.  I thought he was full 'o sh*t!  I 
should have known better than to doubt the SHARK... Tim

>Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 21:09:20 -0600
>To: bmw-digest@domain.elided
>From: Land Shark <lndshrk@domain.elided>
>Subject: Too Lean???
>Cc: m3gizmo@domain.elided
>
>Tim Gergen writes:
>
>>Apparently, he found through dyno 
>>testing while using a a/f meter, that WITH A CONE FILTER and the euro 
>>HFM/Jim chip, the car was pretty lean at high rpm.  He says about 14.1 
>>or so...
>
> Well, tell him for me I'd like to see the chip he speaks of.. because
> the chip you have, and the one sold by Will Turner was actually tuned
> with a CONE filter for peak HP (somewhere around 12.9-13.1 at 
6000rpms)
>
> This was done SPECIFICALLY for those who buy the kit, and either don't 
> use the airbox or who decide that they want to switch for weekend 
track
> events.. (like me... Gee ;)
>
> In fact, using the HFM setup with a CONE is the most you can do with
> the stock injectors safely.. 
>
> It was tuned in Florida, using a fresh Horiba sensor (Thanks to Karl
> at Active) on a local club member tuning day on Keith Robertson's car
> and I think he might still have the printouts from it.. with both
> the DYNO runs and the scribbled AFR numbers.. those runs USED to be 
> posted on the Maximum Performance website.. but the website moved or
> something :(
>
> As a technical sidenote, I think it's time for a bit of fresh air 
about
> the whole chip thing on E36 M3's... No chip can do *anything* else 
> without more fuel either by larger injectors or higher fuel pressure.. 
> the injectors peak out at (approx) 284 HP 
>
> SOOO.... any claims that say that chip X or Y can improve upon that HP 
> significantly, or HP claims of greater than approx. 280HP using stock
> injectors are total B*LLSH*T!
> 
>>Now, I am NO expert on this and post this merely to find out what 
others 
>>may have leanered about using a cone filter with the euro hfm.  
>
> The problem is when people who don't have the proper equipment or in 
some
> cases have it, but can't use it..  If he's measuring a 14:1 afr at WOT 
then
> either his sensor is gone .. or the nut behind the wheel is loose ;)
>
> I love these "questions" the best.. nothing speaks louder than simple 
FACTS..
>
> Jim C.
>
> PS: For those who doubt anything I say, feel free to contact Keith, or 
Dan
>     or Carlos from the FL chapters.. or call ERT on the injector 
thing..
>
>     It was ALFREDS car that JUMPED from 284HP to close to 310 JUST by
>     using a larger set of injectors and properly calibrated chip for 
them!
>     (Yes, he was a happy boy!!)
>


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