The usual test is to bounce the car a couple times at each corner and let go. the car should bounce less than once, i.e. overdamped. if goes on and on, bad shox. also, owning an (apparently) even older E28, I object to the characterization of E34s being older. just wait you young whippersnapper. doug dykaar AT&T Bell Laboratories 86 951 85 535i 94 850 turbo wagon groucho the cat