Geez, while I did get carried away in the spirit of the moment, promoting(bragging/etc.?) my everyday car, the GTA, I had no intention of misleading/angering/flaming ANYONE with skidpad numbers!!! It was the only number used by car mags(rags?) for comparison sake(maybe I should go back and re-RTFM). Forgive this newcomer to high-performance cars! Can anyone shed light on the poster's question? ...back among the foam of the I-netter's surf... Joe