They are invaluable. Make sure that you get one that displays settings in both lbs./ft. and Newton meters (Nm). Chris Robyn SF Bay Area '91 M5 '87 325 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- to be removed from bmw, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe bmw" to majordomo@domain.elided