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Re: suspension question



Mike,

And if your Koni's front strut inserts were installed, this cutting has been
done already....

As Alex said, more or less, don't walk, RUN away from the two bunches of
clowns you currently have working on the car.   With Koni inserts in the
original
housings, this should be a relative no-brainer.   If the parts don't fit,
they're either the wrong or poor quality parts, or they weren't properly
installed.   No significant modification beyond that specified in the
installation,
such as cutting coils, should be necessary.

Where are you?   People on the list probably can recommend a local shop from
past experience.

Martin Bullen
'95 M3
'97 Z3 2.8

In a message dated 6/24/03 5:40:23 PM, owner-bmw-digest@domain.elided writes:


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MARGIN-RI> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:31:18 -0400
> From: "Al Floer" <cybercord@domain.elided>
> Subject: Re: suspension question
>
> To All,
>
> I had my M Roadster springs and shocks repleaced with H&R / Koni's SA's.
> The cutting involved , to bew able to use the original strut housing is the
> bent over part of the strut that holds the shock in the housing.  What had
> to be done is this fold over part had to be cut pff to get the cartridge
out
> of the strut..  To hold the new Koni cartridge in, a hole had to be drilled
> into the botttom of the strut to have a bolt/screw inserted that screwed
> into the Koni cartridge.  This was done at a BW shop that is vary familiar
> with the process.  I know several other Roadster owners that have done this
> and once you see what has to be done, it's not that big of a job.  30
> minutes max on a grinder.
>
> Al Floer
> '00 M Rodster
> '96 E36
> '88 E24
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kohlbren-m-d@domain.elided>
> To: <bmw@domain.elided>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: suspension question
>
>
> > > Alex thanks for your quick response. I may not have explained myself
> > > well when trying to describe what the bmw mechanic said needed to be
> > > done. i am not sure what the exact part names are but please bare
> > > with me. From what i remember the bmw mechanic said that the springs
> > > should not have been as compressed as they were. the car was just
> > > parked on a level surface. when he looked up under the wheel well he
> > > pointed and showed me what he was looking at. The first few coils on
> > > the springs were touching each other.
> >
> > This may very well be perfectly normal.  There are plenty of
> > "lowering springs" out there that have several so-called "dead
> > coils" wound into them whose only function is to take up the
> > slop when the shock is at full extension, as when the wheels are
> > off the ground.  This prevents the springs from popping out of
> > their perches.
> >
> > > ... he said that it looked like they did not set the bump stop
> > > properly and it could cause the car to bottom out.
> >
> > This could also be perfectly normal, depending on the parts you
> > have purchased.  Didn't you mention that they did this on the
> > rear?
> >
> > > ...he explained that i need to take it back to the shop that
> > > did it and have them cut the "spring perch?"(the plate/housing
> > > where the spring sits in on the strut) and drop it an inch and
> > > weld it back on.
> >
> > While this is certainly something that gets done, it is typically
> > only on really custom setups.  If you are buying off-the-shelf
> > aftermarket bits specifically for the M3, then you shouldn't be
> > doing stuff like that.
> >
> > > He was not saying to cut and weld the actual springs themselves.
> > >
> > > I got the springs from a place called AutoMod(www.automod.net)
> > > and I got my konis(yellow) from tirerack.
> >
> > My suggestion is to start calling these two places and asking them
> > for their advice.  I don't think that the Tire Rack is going to be
> > selling you inappropriate parts, but I have no clue about this other
> > outfit.  A quick look on the REAL Racing Dynamics website shows that
> > they offer no suspension components for the E36 M3...
> >
> > Good luck and sorry I couldn't offer more specific help.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike Kohlbrenner
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