Re: [alfa] Milano Rear Rotor Bolts - Outcome

["Dean" <tessiedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds like a lot of trouble when you can nip the heads of with a grinder in
about 10 sec's. What year is the milano I would be surprized if its never
been appart. Those bolt just seem to bind (maybe because they have a fine
thread) regardless of sealant. Anyway you got em off and the car didnt win.
Cheers,
Dean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Herbert Neily" <neily@domain.elided>
To: "alfa digest" <alfa-digest@domain.elided>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: [alfa] Milano Rear Rotor Bolts - Outcome


>   Thanks to all who replied to my query about rear brake rotor bolts.  A
> recent post reminded us to relate the outcome of our various challenges,
so
> here's the scintillating story.
>    Thomas Gonnella made several good observations - I'd never considered
> that a factory-applied thread sealer might defeat the action of
penetrating
> oil.  So, today I repeatedly heated (at the threaded end at the axle stub
> flange) and torqued the offending bolt.  After a number of unsuccessful
> tries, each one with more heat and more torque, I again drilled into the
> stripped hex socket, pounded my KD Tools screw extractor ever further into
> place, and applied all of the force I could muster on the end of a 15-inch
> breaker bar.  With a loud report, the bolt broke free.  Interestingly,
while
> most of the other 11 bolts seemed to show evidence of some kind of thread
> sealer, the stuck bolt's threads looked clean and shiny.  Go figure.
> Tomorrow, I'll be off to the local fastener emporium to get some
> replacements (way back when I removed the GTV6's bolts, I found that the
> existing 33mm long bolts could be replaced by more available 35mm long
> bolts - the bolt tips *just* clear the bolt heads that hold the axle stub
> flange to the transaxle)
>    As much as I despise Allen head bolts, I have to admit that this bolt
> took a tremendous amount of torque before the socket finally stripped out.
> Given the design of the adapter/spacer (between the inner CV joint and
> rotor), there would have been no room to put a wrench on a conventional
hex
> head.  So, at least there seemed to be a good reason to use the Allen
bolts.
> Thomas surmised that the spacer might be related to an allowance for
> ventilated rotors available on European Milanos.  That sounds plausible
and
> makes me feel a little better.
>    I'm a read-the-directions-first kind of guy, so I appreciated Thomas'
> Fred-like admonition about getting a proper manual.  When I bought my
GTV6,
> it came with the GTV6/Milano manual that IAP sells.  My copy of  that
manual
> addresses the Milano ABS system, but doesn't address the rear brakes
(maybe
> my manual isn't comlete?).  The CarDisc CD provides the Alfetta chassis
> manuals and the rear brake chapter depicts a setup like my GTV6's.  If
> anyone knows of a better source, I'm open to suggestions.
>   Thanks again for reading.  I'll be sending a check to Richard with
> tomorrow's stack of bills.
> Bert Neily
> Raleigh, NC USA
> '84 GTV6
> '87 Milano
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