Re: [alfa] RE: Starter Running On- NEW TWIST!

[hagen_jason@xxxxxxxxxxx]

I have been struggling with a related problem on my '73 Spider.  After installing a series 4 starter (for a 91-94), I was having problems with the starter cranking for only a couple seconds, then stopping.  If I disconnected the cold-start enrichment solenoid, the problem went away.  Wes Ingram told me I must have a shorted soleniod so I replaced it (yes, pulled the pump, etc.).

Well, the problem persisted.  Basically, the starter and solenoid require a lot of current.  I was just about to put in a separate solenoid, but decided to check for good grounds and put in a new ground strap.  So far, it seems better.  

I hope this is useful to someone out there.  It would have saved me removing my Spica pump!

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Jason Hagen
Chicago, IL
'73 Spider
'95 164Q
> Bill - You are correct. Evidently '74 was the only year a relay was 
> installed for the starter. My old '71 did not have one. The wire diagram for 
> a 75 does not show a relay. Why Alfa took it back off, I have no idea. 
> Running a lot of current through the key switch doesn't sound like a good 
> idea to me.
> 
> The "starter running on" problem did happen to me on my 71, but never on my 
> 74. I did have a click, no crank problem which was due to burned contacts on 
> the copper contact bar in the solenoid. Although I replaced it, I suspect 
> that I could have cleaned it satisfactorily. I suppose if the contacts were 
> dirty, they could also arc, and stick causing a starter run on like you had.
> 
> The bottom line is I think a relay is a good idea for both the starter and 
> the CSS, since they are both high current items. Might save an expensive key 
> switch and ensure a full current to the starter solenoid and CSS.
> 
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> 

> My 79 SPICA spider did not have a factory relay, I also had this problem,
> First I added the relay because this is the easiest to do, did not fix it. I
> used the same relay for the cold start solenoid and the starter relay, there
> was no feed back form one solenoid to another, when power is removed the
> solenoids they should dis-engage, no witch craft here. The starter still ran
> on after the key was released. I then cleaned the starter solenoid,
> reassembled it dry (as per Fred) and have not had a problem with it.
> 
> Bill LeClair
> 
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