Re: [alfa] Re: coolant disposal

["TJ" <tj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I assume this precludes situations where storm drains flow directly to 
freshwater bays, rivers or streams as we have here in the Bay Area.  
Many of these drains are so marked and indicate not to dispose of 
automotive chemicals in them.

TJ

> My work involves dealing with the environmental impacts of ethylene 
and
> propylene glycols in the fluids used to deice aircraft.  Both 
ethylene and
> propylene glycol are basically liquid sugars, and they readily 
biodegrade.
> The additives are typically the major issue in the impacts of 
deicers, and
> I'm sure they are an issue with coolants, but they generally are 
degraded as
> well in the biological treatment process.  The standard method for 
disposal
> of spend fluids is discharge to a sanitary sewer.  The advice to 
pour spent
> coolant down the drain is sound.
> 
> Dean Mericas
> Ann Arbor, MI
> 1974 2000 GTV
> 
> >Some chemist or biologist please correct me if I am wrong, but
> >I was under
> >the impression that coolant will decompose in nature.  There are 
enough
> >natural flora out there to take care of small quantities over time.
> >The real danger is of poisoning any animals happening by who lap it 
up,
> >because it tastes sweet.  The toxic byproduct of digestion is
> >oxalic acid,
> >but this can be avoided by...wait for it... drinking booze!  I
> >actually saw
> >this recommendation on an MSDS:  medical care will be delayed
> >several hours,
> >give the patient three to four 1-ounce oral "shots" of
> >86-proof or higher
> >whiskey before or during transport to the hospitalmedical care will 
be
> >delayed several hours, give the patient three to four 1-ounce oral
> >"shotsmedical care will be delayed several hours, give the
> >patient three to
> >four 1-ounce oral "shotsmedical care will be delayed several
> >hours, give the
> >patient three to four 1-ounce oral "shotsmedical care will be 
delayed
> >several hours, give the patient three to four 1-ounce oral
> >"shotsmedical
> >care will be delayed several hours, give the patient three to
> >four 1-ounce
> >oral "shotsmedical care will be delayed several hours, give the 
patient
> >three to four 1-ounce oral "shots"If medical care will be
> >delayed several
> >hours, give the patient three to four 1-ounce oral
> >
> >"shots" of 86-proof or higher whiskey before or during transport to 
the
> >hospital."
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