Re: more 164S clutch discussion

["Karl Chen" <karlcchen@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Your analysis is correct.  My TO clicked into pressure with very little
effort using just my hand after gerabox is bolted.   I remembered
playing with the TO and once accidentally had the plastic ring taken out.
When installed incorrectly it does not move back easily and that
maybe the cause of why some of the people had difficulty.

I made a mistake, my clutch pressure plate covered flywheel timing mark!
I had flywheel timing mark painted yellow and extended it to top of 
flywheel.
As I can still see the paint I did not realized the notch at side is 
covered.
Well, hopefully it is not important as timing mark is also available at 
other side
at crankshaft pulley.

Karl


> In response to Karl's clutch question, Jason mentioned his difficulty in
> getting the TO bearing to snap on to the pressure plate in his 164 LS (same
> as S and Q).  Jason found that spinning the engine with the starter helps 
> to
> seat it and wondered if greasing the TO bearing would make it easier.  As I
> had no difficulty in setting the TO bearing to seat in my S without using
> grease (except for the splines), I was puzzled, and so, I took a look at my
> new spare clutch to see what could explain Jason's difficulty.  Here is 
> what
> I found:
>
> The S TO bearing has a plastic ring that covers and compresses the metal 
> snap
> ring.  When the TO bearing is pushed up against the pressure plate, the
> plastic ring is forced back as the pressure plate moves over the snap ring.
> If the plastic ring is out of place (which could happen if someone was
> playing with it), I can see how it would be diffult to force the the 
> pressure
> plate to move over and expaned snap ring.  I still don't understand how
> spinning the engine helps, but with the plastic ring in place, it should be 
> a
> snap without needing to engage the starter.
>
> Good luck with the new clutch karl,    -Farzan
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