RE: How rare are early Spiders?

["Ian Lomax" <sfalfisto@domain.elided>]

I would also guess that since the early Kamm Tails look so much like the
later ones, there has been less interest in them as collectibles.
Duetto's are distinct and "different" therefore more valuable in some
eyes.

Maybe another reason you don't see many early 70's spider's for sale is
that nobody wants to sell theirs!

Cheers,
Ian Lomax
71 Spider  - 10 year anniversary coming up

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-alfa@domain.elided [mailto:owner-alfa@domain.elided] On 
> Behalf Of Fred & Mel Zimmermann
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:49 PM
> To: John E. Newhagen
> Cc: alfa@domain.elided
> Subject: Re: How rare are early Spiders?
> 
> 
> John E. Newhagen wrote:
> 
> > I just got bushwhacked in the last 10 seconds of an eBay 
> auction for a
> > mediocre
> > 72-72 spider rear bumper. It went for $285. Reoriginals 
> wants $700. I
> > have been
> > searching for one for my '73 for years. (The current bumper 
> has a nasty
> > kink in the middle.)
> >
> > This puts me to wondering just how rare 71-74 spiders are (this may
> > apply back to 69, the
> > first year the kamm tail was introduced. Is that right?)
> 
> > It just seems that during the last few years I just don't 
> see them up
> 
> > for sale, in good or bad condition,
> > plus the problem of finding parts specific to them. It 
> seems to me there
> > are more boat tails floating around.
> > I just wonder if the disappearance of this particular 
> series, noted at
> > the beginning by the redesign of the
> > tail, and at the end by styling and trim compromises to federal
> > regulations, isn't a carefully guarded secret?
> >
> > John
> > 73 Alfa Spider
> >
> 
>  Actually the first year for the Kamm tail in the US was 71. 
> The 69 was
> still a BoatTail. The Duetto was the first BoatTail and was 
> produced in both
> 67 and 68. It had a 1600 engine and dual Webers.  The 69/70 
> BoatTail was the
> first year to have the Spica Fuel Injection and had a 1750 
> engine. The 69
> BoatTail is often identified as a Duetto. It is not a Duetto 
> technically,
> but the two model did look very much alike.
> 
> As for production numbers, the Sports Market Newsletter sez there were
> 15,047 of both of the BoatTail version produced. 
> Unfortunately the number
> produced for the later Kamm
>  tail versions. I strongly suspect there were a lot more of 
> the Kamm Tails
> made however.
> I further suspect that the reason that there are more of the BoatTail
> spiders around has to do with value. That probably also means 
> that a lot of
> the Kamm Tail spiders have been scraped or abandoned. That could also
> increase the value of the available parts such a bumpers etc. 
> Guess my only
> real suggestion for finding a bumper for you car is to 
> contact APE Alfa
> Parts Exchange. They do have an amazing of hard to find parts.
> 
> Good luck,
> Fred Zimmermann
> 67 Duetto
> 69 Berlina
> 71 GTV 53 Chevy Pickup
> 
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