Peter, have you tried emailing Wes? wing@domain.elided I believe you can also buy a SPICA manual from the http://www.aroc-usa.org/merch.html site. Wow, pretty amazing huh ;-) Ciao, Zach Redmond, WA -- to be removed from alfa, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to majordomo@domain.elided