Re: '91 164S slow warm up

[Jerry Ecklund <jre2100@domain.elided>]

It's interesting to hear that the very slow warm-up
time also applies to Alfa's 4 cyl. motors as well.

I wonder what Honda has done to make their Accord warm
up to fast?  My mothers Accord and another that I've
driven in Minnesota's winter both warm-up fully in
just a couple of minutes of driving.  They're the
fastest warm-up of any car I've ever driven, unusually
fast.

Jerry, San Francisco
'91 164S
'76 Lancia Beta
'81 Fiat Brava

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:55:42 +0100
From: "Tim Hancock" <timhancock@domain.elided>
Subject: Re:'91 164S slow warm up even with new
thermostat

Jerry

This is an Alfa design trait (fault??) My 164 TS is
just so slow to 
warm up. I
was getting paranoid about it, but then I remembered
that all three 
Alfas
(164TS & 75 TS) I have owned have been the same, and
everyone you speak 
to
says ditto.

Last winter on a foggy/icy day it failed to get to
operating temp for 
nearly
20 miles. In fact I shut the heater off just to get
the engine to warm 
up.
When I checked the thermostat it was working just
fine. In the bad old 
days I
remember people blanking off sections of the radiator
in very cold 
weather,
but I don't trust that method with todays engines.

What irks me is that the engine is quite evidently
chucking out bucket 
loads
of heat, because that is what engines do. What I don't
understand is 
where it
hides it all !!. By contrast my wifes modest 1300cc
Czech transport 
system is
pushing out lovely warm air from the heater in little
over a mile. 
Grrrrr.

After a truly beautiful October the weather is just
turning cooler 
here, so I
am just entering the 'slow warm-up' period again.

Tim Hancock   164TS Lusso                    Boston UK
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