mirrors

[JHertzman@domain.elided]

In AD7-1166 Albert Jacob asks about exterior mirrors appropriate to a '58 
Spider Veloce. 

In sixty-some pages on the various Giuliettas in d'Amico & Tabucchi, around 
100 photos, exactly three cars have exterior mirrors, and one of them is a 
late Sprint which had been retrofitted with a painted-housing mirror of the 
shallow conical type which was introduced around 1970. It first shows up in 
my 1750 Europarts books as part #105.03.61.017.00 for cars exported to 
Germany and Denmark. A variant was present in plated form on both the 1971 GT 
Veloce and 1972 Berlina when I bought them new, and appears in the US 
Supplement parts book with a different part number- #105.64.61.017.00; the 
difference appears to be that the 105.64 has a small cross-and-serpent badge 
at the peak of he cone while the 105.03 does not. The 105.03 prefix on Alfa's 
parts code protocol indicates that it was first used on the Duetto, and the 
105.64 prefix indicates that that type was first used on the Montreal, which 
was first produced as a 1971 model. My 1967 Super, purchased new, did not 
have an exterior mirror; I fitted a British mirror which was the most common 
aftermarket unit at the time and matched the 
flat-round-attached-to-spindly-arm-type Mr Jacob describes. My 62 Giulietta, 
bought used in '64, did not have an exterior mirror.

I infer that outside mirrors were not normally used by Italian drivers in 
Giulietta days, or at least not in very common use nor legally mandated 
except possibly in more regimented countries. So concours authenticity might 
ride on whether one preferred one's car in pristine factory-original state or 
in a more accesorized state- radio, logo floor mat, Derrington wheel, driving 
lights, string-back gloves, etc.

The bullet-shaped mirror Mr. Jacobs refers to is the Talbot, not uncommon on 
serious racers and wannabees in the mid-sixties and available again from 
accessory houses.

The best source I know of for the flat-round-attached-to-spindly-arm-type Mr. 
Jacobs finds likely is Europa Specialist Spares in GB, purveyors of Vintage, 
Classic, Historic, Motorsport and Replica parts. (Europa Specialist Spares, 
Fauld Industrial Park, Tutbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire DE13, 
England). Their 'mirrors' pages show approximately a hundred variants, 
including three separate arms and six separate heads of the spindly type, and 
four variants of the Talbot type depending on whether you prefer spun alloy 
or chrome-on-brass, and flat or convex lenses.

Mr. Jacobs also asks for "Any leads on a really nice Super or Berlina". Alas, 
I have no Super, and neither of my Berlinas is really nice- - Now, if he 
would settle for a Sport Sedan - -

Cordially,
John H.
Raleigh, N.C.

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