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Re: alfa-digest V7 #630 - Restrictors in the oil passages
- Subject: Re: alfa-digest V7 #630 - Restrictors in the oil passages
- From: AlfaNeely@domain.elided
- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:57:03 EDT
Simon,
I was not suggesting that everyone partly plug off the oil passages
to the cam bearings and I am not sure I agree with it. However, my friend
HAS done this to 5 of the 6 bearings and his engine is alive and well in a
racing environment. Thus, all the concern about roll pins constricting oil
flow to the cam bearings was, I felt, of no consequence. That was the point
I was trying to make: roll pins are not going to limit oil flow enough to
matter.
I too read the article in Sports Car. Maybe I will go read it again.
It was pretty interesting. Especially the way oil pressure and flow
interact with the "leakage" around the bearing surfaces.
Your comment about oil pressure at the rod bearing due to centrifugal
force is appropriate to the Alfa four cylinder. Study the crank and it is
obvious that oil to the #2 and #4 main has to travel out to the rod journal
and BACK against the centrifugal force. That is the reason I drill the block
for full oiling to all five main bearings.
Finding fully grooved inserts for all five main bearings can be a
problem. It is necessary to drill a hole in the 2 & 4 bearing inserts. Some
parts purveyors do not understand what I am asking them to look for in their
bearing package. Given the recent thread, I sure ain't gonna ask that by E
Mail!
Ciao,
Russ Neely
Oklahoma City
In a message dated 4/10/99 2:09:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
owner-alfa-digest@domain.elided writes:
<< Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:44:56 -0700
From: Simon Favre <simon@domain.elided>
Subject: Re: Restrictors in the oil passages
This one is also new to me. I don't think highly of it. There was a VERY
good analysis of engine lubrication in a recent issue of Sports Car (the
SCCA national rag, not the Euro auto rag). In this article, a racer with
a considerable background in Mechanical Engineering analyzed why he kept
getting a specific bearing failure running a motor at 8000+ RPM. The
culprit in his case turned out to be a very curious consequence of the
physics. It turns out that the centrifugal force acting on the oil in
the crank passages caused the oil pressure at the rod bearings to go up
and the oil pressure at the mains to go down! He was having failure on
one main bearing quite consistently. His conclusion was that it was oil
starvation at this main caused by having to feed the nearby rod bearings
which started sucking oil out of the main faster at high RPM. His system
was a typical racing dry sump with a pressure limit valve.
The author then went on to analyze lubrication systems in great detail.
I'll have to dig it up to summarize more. I think one of his conclusions
was that fitting a high volume oil pump didn't help if you were running
at the max pressure allowed by the standard limit valve (assuming WOT).
In his case, he had to raise the pressure in the system to accomodate
the pressure loss at the mains running at redline. There was no mention
of restricting oil flow to the head. I think he did more work on the
block to balance the flow to the mains.
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