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Re "Woman and Cars" misses point



David Ziglin <davidz@domain.elided> writes:

>Joe .....  this only confirms my point.  You are *not* describing a
>difference in innate brain function between males and females but
rather
>differences between men and women in our culture.  *This has to be the
very
>most common and serious misunderstanding when talking about this
subject.*

Watch the behavior of male vs. female birds, bees, bovines, cats, apes,
what-have-you and come back with a straight face and tell me there
aren't fundamental NATURAL (not nutural) differences between female and
male brains and how they operate.

>...Now
>that you understand that not every complainer like me and your GF
>necessarily want you to offer solutions that you are not in a position
to
>do, you will *learn* to sympathize first and hold back on the attempted
>problem solving.
...
>The danger offered by "Men Mars" popwriters is that they "teach"
>us/reinforce the nonsense that "that's just the way men are, that's
just
>the way women are."  Bullshit!!!

But "Men Mars" suggests precisely the *learning* to sympathize first
when dealing with most women and some men that you suggest is
beneficial.  The book *also* specifically points out that its
generalizations about men do not apply to all men, and ditto for women.
By and large it pegs the nail right on the head.  Have you even read the
book?

>The PMS you refer to is *not* universally experienced in other
cultures.

Where is it not?

I really fail to see how my girlfriend's grouchiness and
hypersensitivity is a culturally-induced phenomenon.  How would you
explain it?

Would any women on the list care to comment on David's apparent
assertion that PMS is something your mothers, or perhaps our nasty
patriarchal society, has caused you to imagine?

  -joe
   (Who will try to restrict his further comment on this subject to
private e-mail...)

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