[alfa] Twin-spark starter motor + Ebay + thanks

[Highwoodalfa@xxxxxxx]

Sounds like the wrong starter motor to me.  There were two types of 
bellhousing used on the 105-Series 2-litres, the change was in 1972 I think, so most 
2-litres got the later one, but I wouldn't say either was rare.  The difference 
has nothing to do with the fitting for the starter motor though, they were all 
the same in this respect.

Chris Sweetapple
Highwood Motor Company
Swansea, U.K.
www.highwoodalfa.com

In a message dated 01/12/2004 19:09:29 GMT Standard Time, 
owner-alfa-digest@domain.elided writes:

> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:04:49 +1100
> From: "Sasha Nackovski" <sashan@domain.elided>
> Subject: [alfa] Twin-spark starter motor + Ebay + thanks
> 
> Hi again folks,
> 
> First of all, thanks to all those who responded to my previous question 
> about
> upgrading the alternator in my '74 Giulia GTV. I recieved lots of good
> suggestions. Some suggested that I use an alternator from a V6 or later 
> model
> 4 cylinder car (twin spark or late giulietta/alfetta). I will be exploring
> this option first. Others suggested that I could adapt one of several 
> GM/Denso
> units, so I will pay a trip to the junkyard to see if this is feasible. Will
> report back with the results if anyone is interested.
> 
> OK, on to my current problem. I have just recieved a starter motor that I
> purchased on Ebay (where else?). The starter was listed as being from a late
> model Alfa 75 twin-spark engine, and was advertised as being a direct bolt 
> on
> replacement to the starter in the earlier 105/116 2000 model cars. The
> twin-spark uses a modern "small" 1.4hp gear reduction starter. I purchased 
> it
> in the hope of upgrading the big, heavy, bellhousing cracking Bosch starter 
> in
> my '74 GTV. The seller assured me that it was a staright bolt on 
> replacement.
> Indeed I have heard of many Giulia owners replacing their starters with 
> modern
> gear reduction starters.
> 
> Problem is that the starter I recieved does not fit. The bolt spacings on 
> the
> casing are too far apart (although they have the familiar alfa triangular
> pattern) and the circumference of the starters nose is far too large to fit 
> in
> the bellhousing.
> 
> So what I am trying to determine is whether the starter I received is 
> actually
> for an Alfa, or some other model of car. The rear casing has the following
> stamped on it- "Magneti Marelli- Made in the UK- E70R-1.4/12 63223435".
> Curiously, the side of the casing also has the following stamped on it- "BMW
> 12.411726463". I cannot imagine a BMW using a UK made Marelli starter, but
> stranger things have happened.
> 
> I am led to believe that 2000 Giulia models used two types of bellhousings,
> and that mine is the very rare type. Could this have something to do with 
> the
> starter not fitting?
> 
> Anyone know what is going on here? Wrong starter? I would like to find out
> before I start shouting at the seller. Can e-mail a photo of the starter if 
> it
> helps.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sasha Nackovski- Melbourne, Australia
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