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[alfa] Re: Berlina Springs



At 05:30 AM 4/24/04 +0000, you wrote:

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:15:06 -0400
From: "Watry, Andrew (LNG-SFR)" <Andrew.Watry@domain.elided>
Subject: [alfa] Berlina springs

The question I most get asked on the Berlina Register that I can't answer is
what to do about replacement springs, whether new, Shankle, Centerline, IAP,
or whatever.  I've never used other than stock springs on my Giulias and
Berlinas, but by now many of them are sagged out, and they're not available
new.

In going through the first Alfa Ricambi catalog (from 1991 after they took
over Shankle) last night, I notice a chart I'd never read, the gives info on
what each AR/Shankle spring of the time will do to each car's ride height
and stiffness.  For those who have the catalog (white cover, with drawing of
GTA and tach), turn to the big chart on p. 33.  For those who don't have the
chart, here's what I culled out for Berlinas:

Spring descriptions:
Front
        AL0467 Shankle Street GTV/Spider/Berlina 105/115
        AL0468 Shankle Sport  750/101
        AL4733 Shankle Super Sport GTV/Spider/Berlina 105/115
Rear
        AL0491 Shankle Sport 105/115 Spider GTV
        AL0492 Shankle Sport 105/115 Berlina
        AL0493 Shankle Street 105/115 Berlina
        AL4732 Shankle Super Sport 105/115 Spider/GTV/Berlina

(there are some inconsistencies in the numbers; one place shows AL0492 as
GTV/Spider spring, another shows it as Berlina; also will a 750/101 spring
really work?)

Effect of springs
Front
        AL0467 19% stiffer; no ride height change
        AL0468 19% stiffer; 1.5" lower
        AL4733 48% stiffer; 1.3" lower

Rear
        AL0491 18% stiffer; 2.5" lower
        AL0492 18% stiffer; 1.5" lower
        AL0493 18% stiffer; .5" lower
        AL4732 40% stiffer; 2" lower

I hope this helps.  I don't know what to say about the use of Centerline/IAP
GTV/Spider springs.  I'd guess they'd be fine for the front, being
moderately stronger and a bit shorter, but I bet the rear springs wouldn't
be long or stronger enough for a Berlina.  Anyone have firsthand experience?

Andrew Watry
Berlina Register
I have the 4733 on the front and 4732 on the rear of my Red Berlina. I retained the front aluminum spacers on the front, no spacers on the rear. Works fine, good ride, even ride height, not too stiff. Koni reds, with BWA 14x6 & 195/65 Yokos.

The rubber bumper Berlinas had aluminum spacers on the rear. These spacers could be used with the IAP or Centerline springs on the rear if they were too short. Strength of these springs should not be an issue.

//kct, Powell, TN '73 Sider, Berlina & GTV all running at the same time!
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