Clean and dry

[John Hofstetter <hofs@domain.elided>]

>The other thing is that I noticed that the torque values seemed low then I
>noticed that they are given for lubricated bolts.  I've always seen clean
>and dry before.  Typically, lubed values should be about half that for
>dry.  this is usefull because I can use these torque values with
>anti-sieze lube. 
>
>Steve

Steve,
You missed my much earlier post where I pontificated to the digest that 
torque values were always for clean and dry threads, where-upon John L. 
sent me to my manual and demanded and got a retraction from me. Why do I 
like him so much when he treats me this way?
John H.