Re: Remote solenoid questions answered, but more. . .

[Darrel Kline <darrelk@domain.elided>]

At 11:51 AM 9/8/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Boy do you guys come through !
>
>Thanks to Darrel Kline, John H, John Staub who all came through with
>detailed info on the conversion.  My original thought was that the remote
>solenoid totally replaced the starter mounted unit.  Of course, that's
>impossible cause you wouldn't have anyway to engage the flywheel without
>the starter-mounted solenoid.  Now I think I understand fully the function
>of the remote solenoid.
>
>My NAPA closed early yesterday, so didn't get a chance to run over and pick
>up a Ford unit.  
>
>One more detail no one mentioned, though.  On my 800, the starter-mounted
>solenoid has another terminal marked "R", at least, I think that's the
>marking.  From my poorly readable manual, that appears to be the wire used
>to bypass the ignition ballast resistor during starting.  Am I correct?  If
>that's the case, then those of us with ballast resistors in the ignition
>circuit should get remote solenoids with that extra terminal, right?  The
>"R" terminal could be left connected on the starter-mount solenoid, except 
>when I "drag" the wiring harness up to connect with the new
>firewall-mounted solenoid that wire will want to come with the harness.  My
>NAPA guy told me on the phone they have Ford solenoids with the "extra"
>terminal.  Or that bypass could be connected directly to the Ford output
>side.

Doug,
Sounds like you got this down, I would hook the bypass to the extra
terminal on the remote solenoid. The NAPA Echlin ST81 has the extra
terminal. Strangely enough it's marked "I" for ignition. :-)

>To John H, it would be nice to get a Ford solenoid that the push button,
>manual override.  Maybe someone knows of a specific model still available?

Point to ponder:
Somebody comes along with a jumper wire, connects it between your battery
and coil....and then presses the solenoid push button...Bye Bye Scout. The
Scouts with tilt steering don't even have lock columns (800's?).  I did
this every other week back in high school when my parents took my keys
away, my Mom kept looking for a third set of keys.
I have a large push button switch with clip on leads that works great for
bumping over the engine from the under the hood.  I use it for adjusting
the valve lash on my C*maro (mechnical lifters). 

>BTW, prior to getting the straight story from you guys, I was trying to
>explain to my psuedo-mechanic neighbor about the remote solenoid setup.  He
>suggested replacing the IH Delco-Remy starter with a Ford type with a
>Bendix drive.  I wonder if anyone has done that?  Might take some fancy
>adapting to get that type of starter mounted to the IH engine.
>
>Thanks to all for the usual excellent advice,  Doug

If he could do it I'm sure people would buy it.

Darrel Kline
Colorado Sprigns, CO
1980 Scout