They came stock on 345s in some Scouts, too. Jerry Muncie In a message dated 98-08-09 21:58:33 EDT, you write: << Rich: Carter book says the starting in71 Mopar was the only mfg to ever use thermoquad as orig.equip. I know some scout guys who swear that they came a original on 392 in. Travelall and p/up trucks. FWIW. Al >>