This site has a couple of Alfas that are easier to build than the Super and GT. It also has some cool 2D and 3D art: http://homepage2.nifty.com/art66/index.html Cheers, John Seattle, WA 7311501 -- to be removed from alfa, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to majordomo@domain.elided