Re: 164 Electric Gremlins

["Jason Hagen" <hagen_jason1@xxxxxxx>]

My 164Q has 114,000 miles and the LCD is original (works perfect) and the 
amp (I think) is fine, though every once in a while the radio interjects a 
second of silence.  I had the flasher unit go bad last month, but that 
cannot be blamed on electrical.

Definitely stay away from Audi, as their electrical systems suck.  My mom 
just had a wiring harness fire on her 91 coupe, and the 4000 Quattro I owned 
needed just about every electrical component replaced.  Water cooler 
discussions at work have yielded similar stories from total strangers on 
their newer Audi cars.

I think we all agree that 164's are cool, whether 12 or 24 valve.  I know I 
will jinx myself on the electrical front here, but I have been pretty 
impressed with my 24 valve's system to date.

-Jason Hagen

P.S. Karl Robrock owns all types of 164's, we need him to chime in on the 
relative reliabiity of 12 vs 24 valve...



> From: Karl D <karld@domain.elided>
> Reply-To: Karl D <karld@domain.elided>
> To: alfa-digest@domain.elided
> CC: dsedon@domain.elided
> Subject: 164 Electric Gremlins
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Doug wrote: ask anyone who has owned both varieties of 164 which is more 
> reliable.
> ask alfa-bill, too, while yure at it.  the electrics on the '94 & later 
> 164's
> are a *lot* more of a pita...
>
> ===
>
> Doug, I'm gonna politely challenge you on this. I've never had an 
> electrical problem with my '95 164LS since I bought it new (except for the 
> LCD and the radio amp). The timing belt design sucks, though. It's always 
> had full scheduled maintanence from a very competent dealer and has always 
> passed California Smog by a wide margin.
>
> I'd be interested to know what are the electrical weak points? I know 
> SubaruBill has mentioned that ECU's sometimes die, at great expense. What 
> else am I lucky enough to not have experienced?
>
> Karl
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