Re: rear seat belts, GTV and Berlina (Was 93 Spider vs. 71 GTV)

["Stephen D. Thompson" <thompsonlaw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> From: Stephen D. Thompson <thompsonlaw@domain.elided>
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 11:06:49 -0600
> To: <jmurphy_86@domain.elided>
> Subject: Re: rear seat belts, GTV and Berlina (Was 93 Spider vs. 71 GTV)
> 
> They are on the outside corners of the package tray.  Bolt plates with holes
> identical to the seat belt bolts.  I found them in a 1750 Berlina Parts manual
> illustration then found them by feeling with my fingers through the black
> package tray vinyl.  I removed the package tray and there they are.  They seem
> a little inboard of where a shoulder point would be placed in a new car, but
> seem like they will serve my purposes.  Now I just need to find some belts
> that will work.  I have some out of the back of a 164, but I have not been
> able to get the spools to un-wind regardless of which direction I hold them.
> I understand there is some sort of pendulum set up in there to allow
> operation.  The trick is to see if the 164 position can be matched up with the
> Berlina bolt plates.  In any case, they will be sticking out the top of the
> package tray.  I plan to keep the original un-cut tray (no speakers or
> anything) out of the car and make a new one so I can put it back to original
> if I want to.  Same with the stereo.  No holes in the dash so the unit goes on
> the front package tray.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Steve
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> 
> 
>> From: James Murphy <jmurphy_86@domain.elided>
>> Reply-To: jmurphy_86@domain.elided
>> Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 07:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: "Stephen D. Thompson" <thompsonlaw@domain.elided>
>> Subject: Re: rear seat belts, GTV and Berlina (Was 93 Spider vs. 71 GTV)
>> 
>> Stephen,
>> 
>> You have hard points for rear shoulder belts in your 71 Berlina?  I
>> have a 72, and when I wanted shoulder belts put in the rear (my wife
>> refuses to let the kids wear only lap belts), my mechanic had to
>> fabricate hard points under the rear shelf with some brackets and large
>> washers.
>> 
>> Where are the shoulder points?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> -Jim Murphy
>> Northboro, MA
>> 83 Spider
>> 72 Berlina
>> 
>> --- "Stephen D. Thompson" <thompsonlaw@domain.elided> wrote:
>>> My 71 Berlina has lap belts installed but also has hard points for
>>> shoulder
>>> harnesses.  I am currently trying to find a good way to install
>>> retractable
>>> shoulder harnesses in them for my kids.  It would seem that the GTV
>>> would
>>> have hard points for at least lap belts.  I did look at a 69 GTV for
>>> purchase and the owner had kids.  I am almost sure he said hard
>>> points were
>>> there for at least lap belts.
>>> 
>>> Steve Thompson
>>> 71 Berlina
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: owner-alfa-digest@domain.elided (alfa-digest)
>>>> Reply-To: alfa@domain.elided
>>>> Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 13:50:40 +0000
>>>> To: alfa-digest@domain.elided
>>>> Subject: alfa-digest V9 #471
>>>> 
>>>> if you actually intend to use the back seat, then make sure the
>>> hard points
>>>> are there. one is on the rear wheel arch, and may be under some
>>> interior
>>>> trim or vinyl, and the other is under the seat cushions. you may
>>> find it a
>>>> bit of work to get an infant seat in and out of the back.
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